www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager
Hi Stanley,
SMW is a good idea.
Two solutions:
"Our own"
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven
Ruby.
"Semweb.org"
We redirect
www.semanticdesktop.org to
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop
Independent of that:
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be
good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from
member fees in exchange for worktime
please express your preferences:
http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t
The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources
better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at
semanticweb.org, which is maintained by one of the main developers,
Markus Krötzsch.
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on
conferences and a little less with Markus Krötzsch, so I trust those
guys to host it right)
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic
web data, without having the need to create a new installation.
In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact
best
Leo
It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the
following words:
All,
I
recommend using the free software titled
"Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from:
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/). this is open source software with an
extensive body of developers creating extensions.
Here
is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop
domain...
I
will be installing and populating this software platform to
capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor
resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources,
etc.)
pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner
Association
managers).
I
am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a
desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and
within
which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and
management
oversight purposes.
My
goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the
step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using
"intelligent
tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn
bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop
user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces
and the
directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal
framework.
I
digress to say "what better way is there to serve our
Semantic Desktoppers?
I
will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager. We are
all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and
update,
the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should
continue to
drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to
this end.
Stanley
Gould, CCAM
<at> Sven Ruby:
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an
issue.
Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.
<at> Laur Mõtus:
Excellent!
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community
manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic
Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you
get!
organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or
Laur's
server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community,
we can
fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.
best
Leo
It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the
following
words:
Hello,
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee
& http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room
together
with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres,
Trac etc)
and what is the size of the server box?
All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee
2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>
Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.
www.semanticdesktop.org
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
mailinglist
Who could host this and maintain this site?
We can reuse the server donated by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.
best
Leo
--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102
Germany Mail: leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org
Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________
_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people
_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people
--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann
http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102
Germany Mail:
leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org
Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________
_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people
--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann
http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102
Germany Mail:
leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org
Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________
<div>
Hi Stanley,<br><br>
SMW is a good idea.<br><br>
Two solutions:<br><br>
"Our own"<br>
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven
Ruby. <br><br>
"Semweb.org"<br>
We redirect <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a> to
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop</a> <br><br>
Independent of that: <br>
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be
good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from
member fees in exchange for worktime <br><br>
please express your preferences:<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t">http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t</a><br><br>
The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources
better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at
semanticweb.org, which is maintained by one of the main developers,
Markus Krötzsch.<br>
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on
conferences and a little less with Markus Krötzsch, so I trust those
guys to host it right)<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About</a><br>
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic
web data, without having the need to create a new installation.<br><br>
In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br><br><br>
It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the
following words:
<blockquote cite="mid:000c01ca1b9c$f02cb3b0$d0861b10$ <at> com" type="cite">
<div class="Section1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>All,<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
recommend using the free software titled
"Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semantic-mediawiki.org/">http://semantic-mediawiki.org/</a>). this is open source software with an
extensive body of developers creating extensions.<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Here
is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop
domain...<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
will be installing and populating this software platform to
capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor
resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources,
etc.)
pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner
Association
managers).<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a
desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and
within
which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and
management
oversight purposes.<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>My
goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the
step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using
"intelligent
tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn
bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop
user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces
and the
directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal
framework.<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
digress to say "what better way is there to serve our
Semantic Desktoppers?<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager. We are
all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and
update,
the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should
continue to
drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to
this end.<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley
Gould, CCAM<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p> </p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people-bounces@...">people-bounces@...</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:people-bounces@...">mailto:people-bounces@...</a>] On Behalf Of Leo
Sauermann<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM<br>To: Laur Mõtus<br>Cc: Nepomuk; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oscaf@...">oscaf@...</a>;
OSCAF,
Sven Ruby<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
community site
- now we need a community manager<p></p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p> </p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <at> Sven Ruby:<br>
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an
issue.
Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.<br><br>
<at> Laur Mõtus:<br>
Excellent!<br><br>
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community
manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic
Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist<br>
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you
get!
organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome <br><br>
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or
Laur's
server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community,
we can
fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the
following
words: <p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br><br>
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a>
& <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a>
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room
together
with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres,
Trac etc)
and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Laur Mõtus<br>
Estobuntu<br>
ITCollege.ee<p></p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>><p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
--<br>
_____________________________________________________<br>
Dr. Leo Sauermann <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann" target="_blank">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a><br><br>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer<br>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<br>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<br>
P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis<br>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102<br>
Germany Mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><br><br>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<br>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<br>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<br>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<br>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<br>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<br>
_____________________________________________________<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
people mailing list<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people" target="_blank">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><p></p></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
_______________________________________________<p></p>
people mailing list<p></p>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><p></p>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p>
<p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><p></p></p>
-- <p></p>
_____________________________________________________<p></p>
Dr. Leo Sauermann <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> <p></p>
<p> </p>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer <p></p>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<p></p>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<p></p>
P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis<p></p>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102<p></p>
Germany Mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><p></p>
<p> </p>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<p></p>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<p></p>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<p></p>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<p></p>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<p></p>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<p></p>
_____________________________________________________<p></p>
</div>
_______________________________________________
people mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a>
</blockquote>
<br><br>--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102
Germany Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________
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