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> Date: Sun,  3 Apr 2005 15:23:08 -0300
> From: "Geraldo Netto" <geraldoneto <at> uol.com.br>
> To: "freedos-user" <freedos-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
> Cc: "freedos-devel" <freedos-devel <at> lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "freedos-kernel" <freedos-kernel <at> lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "freedos-freecom" <freedos-freecom <at> lists.sourceforge.net>,
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> Subject: [Freedos-freecom] freedos
> Reply-To: freedos-freecom <at> lists.sourceforge.net
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> hi folks,
>
> i'm geraldo from brazil and this email is a mix of
> questions/congratulations
> and other things.
>
> a little introduction of myself
> i'm geraldo from brazil as i said above and i'm a huge
> freedos fan.
> well, i knew freedos a long time ago when it was at beta5
> version.
> i'm a student of "information systems" here in brazil and
> always that i can
> i make some tests for eric.
>
> so i separated this email in some parts...
> congratulation, support eric/jason hood/all developers,
> support pcmcia driver,
> lucho<>jack (udma driver rules), internationalization/docs,
> irc people,
> kernel development, distribution, misc
>
> so here it goes, i hope to be not banished of mailing list :)
>
>
> congratulations
> ---------------
> wow i think that the freedos people does a nice work :)
> my little "try" to contribute to freedos is trying to help
> eric, i make some tests for eric always that i can.
>
>
> support eric/jason hood/all developers
> --------------------------------------
> please support eric, jason and all others developers
> where is bart, lucho, john elliot, jason hood, imre leber,
> daniel nagy,
> steve nickolas, steffen kaiser, joe cosentino and even where
> is Pat Villani?
> all those guys made matter on FreeDOS project, of course i'm
> missing a lot of
> other important names here...
> why am i saying it?
> We need all developers here, this is why i said "where is"
> I'm not saying about eric, jeremy, tom, arkady, jh, bernd,
> jlam and other people because they
> are already active on FreeDOS development, and i think that
> they all love, live, think in FreeDOS
> 24h per day, just like me :)
> i also like the utilities of jason hood
> (http://www.geocities.com/jadoxa/index.html)
> this guy does a nice job maintaining shsucdx, lfn driver and
> some others
> he is like Eric, babysitting softwares :)
> so if you can, support him too :)
>
>
> support pcmcia driver
> ---------------------
> why develop an pcmcia driver for dos?
> i think this is a nice thing which can be really usefull
> it will extend freedos features and it is like udma drive
> for freedos once only freedos have this feature, of course i
> know that i can run on other doses but
> it does matter once it will be maintained by someone which
> develops mainly for freedos
> I know that eric, already talked about it. i'm talking about
> it again
> to know if someone is interested in developing this driver
> for freedos
> community. I don't know the license, i just know that it was
> "donated" by deskwork
> (http://www.deskwork.de/) guys that are making an OS written
> in pascal AFAIK.
> please, if you are interested talk to Eric directly, ok?
>
>
> lucho<>jack (udma driver rules)
> -------------------------------
> what happened?(if you allow me to know, of course)
> the udma is simply magic :)
> it is amazing what udma driver can do for us :)
> nice work Lucho and Jack and please, don't fight Lucho/Jack,
> FreeDOS community needs both, ok?
>
>
> internationalization/docs
> -------------------------
> i Think that we need a "strong" work on documentation.
> We need more people working on documentation, i myself
> translated some documentation for pt_br but it needs some
> revisions...
> another important thing is make all FreeDOS documentation
> compatible with the linux documentation project
> why?
> because doing it, we can produce better documentation(follow
> standards is good AFAIK...)
> and another important thing is submit it to the linux
> documentation project
> and translating documentation will help a lot people that
> doesn't speak english.
> doing this FreeDOS will be accessible for everyone
> interested, because people will
> have a chance to read manuals in your native language.
>
>
> irc people
> ----------
> I think that irc is a nice form of communication that can be
> better explored, most time when
> i join the fd chanel i just see the same guys (i think 5 or
> 6) martin stromberg, tassilo, eric and some other
> guys that are always there(uhm, sorry people, i don't
> remember all names). So why am i saying it?
> well, i think that if we have an irc chanel we need to use
> it, right?
> of course that i know that some of you are married and maybe
> have children and wives to care
> but if you have some time, please join our chanel, it would
> be nice at least talk directly to you
> about FreeDOS, i think that it is even better that mailing
> list, because it works as a instant messager :)
> so talk to people to use irc :)
>
>
> kernel development
> ------------------
> what about stop development for a time and revise code
> before release
> FreeDOS 1.0?
> I think that we are near and far at the same time of FD1.
> why?
> because we already have a (nice) kernel and a (nice too) shell
> (Free)DOS is a replacement of DOS, right?
> So i think that we need to care about of the "FreeDOS World"
> that is check if we already have this utility, develop(or
> improve)
> I alreay know the all the "todo list" from the "oficial"
> todo list
> to Eric's todo list and also post FD1. i think that not all
> programs
> are prepared for internationalization, i don't remember the
> name of
> the library that make softwares able to work in other language.
> there is a long way to make FD1 available...
>
>
> distribution
> ------------
> so I think that FreeDOS distribution is nice
> and have a lot of features like our GUI installer
> This is the first installer for DOS that have a
> nice GUI wizard AFAIK :)
> good work people :)
> but i think that we can "bloat" the FreeDOS distribution
> with some interesting softwares so this is my list:
>
> Partition saving a norton ghost like software but gpl and
> for dos :)
> http://www.partition-saving.com/
>
> dvd4dos
> http://doscdroast.freeweb.hu/dvd4dos.htm
>
> the latest version of arachne(now gpl)
> http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ar183gpl/
>
> a nice audioplayer, i don't know if it is gpl but it has the
> source available
> http://mpxplay.cjb.net/
>
> ps and pdf viewer with source
> http://www.nomdo.dds.nl/psview.htm
>
> upx
> http://upx.sourceforge.net/
>
> testdisk
> http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
>
> http://yzonesoft.buildtolearn.net/html/bolitaire.html ->
> already know solitaire game
>
> 4th compiler
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~thebeez/4tH/foldtree.html
>
> yasm
> http://www.tortall.net/projects/yasm/
>
> chuchunco city 2000
> http://www.lgm.cl/software/ch-city/
>
> The Macroassembler AS
> http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/as/download.html
>
> freevikings
> http://freevikings.wz.cz/index.php
>
> open gladiator
> http://snowstorm.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/site.cgi?page=3Dopenglad
>
> vavoom, a doom engine
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/vavoom/
>
> ltools
> http://www.it.fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/software/ltools.html
>
> Z80-ASM
> http://wwwhomes.uni-bielefeld.de/achim/z80-asm.html
>
> a lot of lynks and other ports
> http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/
>
> Binary vIEW
> http://biew.sourceforge.net/
>
> syslinux, our old friend :)
> http://syslinux.zytor.com/
>
> the utilities of jason hood
> (http://www.geocities.com/jadoxa/index.html)
>
>
> misc
> ----
> i think that freedos need a plan, please note that i'm not
> saying
> that freedos is not structured, i'm just saying that it is
> important to
> plan something(please, don't not define time to make things
> it will just
> disturb the development)
>
> is possible to implement a virtualfilesystem layer on
> freedos kernel?
> with a vfs layer freedos would be able to support others
> filesystems.
> what about port squashfs (http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/)
> to freedos?
> squashfs is a smart read-only fs. and extending it (making
> this vfs layer)
> we will be able to make other nice things like read/write
> raw files
> and then mount raw files/isos :)
> what about put a "loopback" support in together with vfs
> like in linux?
> it is another interesting thing
>
> what do you think about create a hardware abstraction layer
> on freedos kernel?
> it is interesting to make freedos "portable" to others
> architectures
>
> i like arkady's optimization but i think that
> first we need to revise the kernel code before
> sending to arkady, ok for you, arkady?
>
> michael does a nice job with emm386/himem
> and martin stromberg did a nice job too a long time ago...
> now, what about both working on emm386/himem?
>
> bernd where can i find the md5 of fdbeta9 sr1?
>
> what about put fdodin as little "replacement" of fd distro?
> just like livecds, knoppix is a "little" (and nice)
> replacement of debian
> with everything that users uses :)
>
>
> again, Thanks for this incredible piece of software!
> and keep this good work :)
>
> Regards,
> Geraldo
>
> ps: let me know if i wrote something wrong, ok?
> pss: who is brazilian here? is there anyone here?
> psss: ah, let me know if i said something which made someone
> anger
> pssss: like Jim Hall says:
> " --
> I'm sorry my president's an idiot. I didn't vote for him."
> i can say the same for "Lula" the president of Brazil...
> I think that i can use this msg once everything here is GLP :)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun,  3 Apr 2005 19:03:28 -0300
> From: "Geraldo Netto" <geraldoneto <at> uol.com.br>
> To: "freedos-user" <freedos-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
> Cc: "freedos-devel" <freedos-devel <at> lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "freedos-kernel" <freedos-kernel <at> lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "freedos-freecom" <freedos-freecom <at> lists.sourceforge.net>,
> "fd-doc-list" <fd-doc-list <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [Freedos-freecom] freedos
> Reply-To: freedos-freecom <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Some updates
>
> Some Eric's comments/suggestions:
>
> >Hi, could you tell all lists that the discussion / saga
> >continues on freedos-user? I am on freedos-user, freedos-devel
> >and freedos-kernel, not on freedos-freecom or fd-doc-list, and
> >the latter are pretty quiet at the moment anyway, because we
> >have no dedicated doc workers right now (except maybe Johnson
> >and Fox) and because Steffen cannot do much for FreeCOM at the
> >moment either. Only few people, like Erwin and Jeremy, can
> >compile FreeCOM at all.
>
> So could you redirect the answers to
> freedos-useratlists.sourceforge.net (please change at -> @)
> once most people are on freedos-user :)
>
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>
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