Re: Downloading Z/OS

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--- In turnkey-mvs@..., "James McGovern"
 <james <at> a...> wrote:
> I also thank you for your response. Prior postings
>from me did not include the name of my employer
>because my writing has absolutely nothing to do
>with work. I guess there is always some idiot that
>had to drag work back into it.
> My question really isn't about advocacy either in
>that I have stated that I have not in the past had
>any need to know a mainframe for work purposes nor
>will in the future. I think for those who derive
>income from the mainframe should pay monies to IBM
>to use their software.
> My case is also different. I want to write a book.
>For those that know me or have read any of my prior
>books will know that I donate any royalties
>received to charitable causes. In other words, I
>plan on earning zero for using Z/OS and therefore
>don't want to pay for it and need a person that
>can help me with this goal.
> You are getting me closer to my answer. How do I
>find out exactly who to email in Partnerworld that
>can get me the CD with Z/OS on it without paying
>for it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Gibney [mailto:gibney <at> p...]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:30 PM
> To: turnkey-mvs@...
> Cc: hercules-advocacy@...
> Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
> I understand that Gabe Goldberg, I think, did
>succeed in getting OS390 2.5? from IBM for this
>purpose some years ago.
> You might also be able to acquire  Partner
>World for Development copy and a Flex-es
>thinkpad.
> It really does, unfortunately, still remain
>the case that running on Hercules is a license
>violation in all but the most limited and
>specific cases.
>> James McGovern wrote:
>> Ordering from ShopZSeries doesn't tell me
>>how to acquire it for author purposes. I am
>>looking for the direct channel for who can
>>send me a copy IBM employee or not. This
>>request has absolutely zero to do with work,
>>hence my point. Pursuing work related
>>channels is inappropriate. I do hope that
>>lurkers from IBM actually figure out the
>>RIGHT channel to serve my request.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Gibney [mailto:gibney <at> p...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:05 PM
>> To: turnkey-mvs@...
>> Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
>> In the case of z/OS, it appears that often
>>does mean close to %100 in the eyes of the
>>owner, IBM.
>> If you could get a license, it's a simple
>>matter of ordering a serverpac from
>>Shopzseries.
>> Please send me a working copy of Windows XP,
>>Oracle 9i and 10g. I'd like to play with
>>Peoplesoft also, so please send anything
>>you have.
>> Just joking by the way. I've heard that there
>>are plenty of warez sites, but I don't indulge.
>> If you really do work for The Hartford, you
>>should check with the legal department. I don't
>>know if they are IBM customers but your constant
>>requests must have come to the notice of the IBM
>>lurkers by now.
>> And please take it to the advocacy list.
>>> James McGovern wrote:
>>> Often does not equal 100%. Kinda like our
>>>president making everything illegal because
>>>it often is used for immoral things even
>>>though it has the potential for being
>>>moral...
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ted Rolle [mailto:ted <at> p...]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:54 AM
>>> To: turnkey-mvs@...
>>> Subject: [turnkey-mvs] Re: Downloading Z/OS
>>> "Share" often = steal
>>> Decreasing morality.
>>> --- In turnkey-mvs@...,
>>> "James McGovern" <james <at> a...> wrote:
>>>> MessageWould love to understand the dinosaur
>>>>mindset of IBMers. How come those who grew up
>>>>in the 80s and 90s are willing to share
>>>>software but those who have been in the field
>>>>for 30 years and work on mainframes are so
>>>>"formal" in how they acquire software.
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