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Fwd: [gsc] Survival Kit List and Links


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From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah@...>
Date: October 6, 2008 4:09:38 PM GMT-04:00
Subject: Fwd: [gsc] Survival Kit List and Links

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From: "G. Gruff"
Date: October 6, 2008 3:57:29 PM GMT-04:00
To: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah@...>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [gsc] Survival Kit List and Links

Good List, RAH 'n'all...but it was lacking....

I would suggest (as per my own inventory)
1 ea. Garand 30-06 (hunting.....or "reprimand")  500 rds of Ammo
    (Or if you're younger, a standard '06 or 308 semi-auto that is
     reasonably accurate)
1 ea wheel gun, large caliber  (I prefer the 41 magnum, myself)
1 ea semi-auto handgun 500 rds ammo (I prefer the Corp's workhorse,  
the 92FS,
      but others prefer the Glock)
1 packable 380 auto
Frangible ammuntion for handguns (1 load each) - keeps neighbor's safe
Powder, Press, dies, primers, slugs, shells (for barter and for  
reloading)

Adjust rifles and handguns (2nd set) to bride (30 carbine, 38 special  
lemonsqueezer, whatever)
Adjust rifles and handguns (more sets) to children (Ruger carbines,  
that kind of tool)

Why? 'Cause a lot of people can't afford the following survival  
schmuck and gizmos...
they will be forced to "forage," so to speak, and the forager's (aka  
"zombies") will need
to be distracted (discouraged) by the "foragee's"....I would assert  
that the number of
zombies out foraging will vary directly with the population density of  
the area within
radii of about 5 miles (walking distance...). The radii will increase  
directly with the
passage of time. I don't have time to cobble an equation, but if one  
zombie consumes
the one or two day larder of the foragee, then moves on, there may be  
an inverse square
law as to how fast the radius expands in that area. Of course some  
larder rots, so that
has to be factored into the equation. Another factor that come into  
play is cannibalism...as
per "Leningrad" and other places where zombies went foraging.

Anyway, I've added a couple of motivational posters to put up in your  
house if
you do have the schmuck and gizmos listed below to any degree:

El ffurgo_|_gruffo, commenting from the Mad Hatter's Picnic Symposium on
                   "Collapsed Financial and Transportation System:  
Outcomes and Adjustments:"
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.A. Hettinga"
To: undisclosed-recipients, :
Subject: Fwd: [gsc] Survival Kit List and Links
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:26:27 -0400

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From: md
Date: October 6, 2008 4:44:34 AM GMT-04:00
To: gold-silver-crypto@...
Subject: [gsc] Survival Kit List and Links

A useful list in a kit from from http://www.nitro-pak.com/ :

Food Reserves:
# Our Best-- The Ultimate Pak II
# All 'No-Cook' Foods... Just add Water and Eat!
# The Finest Food Reserve EVER Assembled
# Gourmet Tasting Foods Everyone Loves
# Complete Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner Meals
# Provides Over 2450 Calories Per Day, Per Person
# Enough Food for 4 Persons for 3 Months
# Plus 63 Instant Meals by just adding water

Water Storage and Filtration:
# Two 55-gallon Family Water Storage Packages (Stores 440 Gallons)
# Katadyn Combi Plus Water Filter
# Katadyn Gravity Drip Filter
# 5 Year Water Storage Treatment
# 5 Gallon Collapsible Water Carrier

Emergency Light:
# Aladdin Watchman Kerosene Lantern
# Aladdin Spare Parts
# 2 Twelve LED Lanterns
# 3 Dietz Air Pilot Kerosene Lanterns and 2 Spare Wicks
# 24 Nuwick 120 Hour Emergency Candles
# 24 Quarts of Ultra Clear Lamp Oil
# 2 Five Gallon Kerosene Containers (empty, fill locally)
# 2 LED Wind-Up Crank Flashlight with Radio
# 2 Nightstar Batteryless Shake Flashlight
# 3 Russian Dynamo Flashlights
# 5 - 15" Instant Room Lightstick
# 24 Instant Lightsticks

Emergency Heat & Warmth:
# Alpaca Kerosene Stove/Heater with Wick
# 1 Quart of Fuel Saver
# Waterproof Matches (two 10 packs)
# Hand/Body Instant Warmers
# 4 All Weather Reinforced Space Blankets

First-Aid Supplies:
# Our Best Comprehensive Family Medical Kit
# Compact Knuckle Mender First Aid Kit
# Dental First-Aid Kit
# Deluxe Suture & Syringe Kit

Sanitation:
# Hotman Super Shower (recommend purchasing locally 6-12 16oz
propane camping fuel bottles)
# Hassock Portable Toilet
# Bio-Blue Chemical Waste Treatment (4 boxes)
# Heavy-Duty Sanitation Toilet Liners (48)
# Biodegradable Toilet Tissue (Six twin packs)

Additional Survival Essentials:
# 60 N95 Hospital Grade Respirator Masks w/Exhale Valves!
# 12 Hand Sanitizer Bottles
# Four NBC Rated Gas Masks
# 8 NBC Gas Mask Replacement Filters
# Super Nutrivita Vitamins (12 bottles)
# Potassium Iodide (28 packets of 14 tablets each)
# Freeplay Wind-Up Radio with LED Light & AM/FM/Shortwave
# Deluxe Solar Battery Charger with Meter
# 2- Two Person Executive 72 Hour kit (for your vehicles)
# Essential Books: Preparing for Emergencies, Sense of Survival,
Making the Best of Basics, Where there is no Doctor and Where there
is no Dentist.

For water, though, I prefer a collapsible 55 gallon bladder bag,
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200327919_200327919

and filter pumps, desal for seawater,
http://www.nitro-pak.com/product_info.php?cPath=40_246&products_id=1097

Gruffy: (where'd the name come from? My students)
Alaska Historical Society, Hope Historical Society

Read about the 200 MPG engine design done in Alaska Major revision/ 
News 5/21/06:

http://www.geocities.com/g_gruff/200mpg.html

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