18 Dec 2006 18:58
Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?
Joachim Noreiko <jnoreiko <at> yahoo.com>
2006-12-18 17:58:12 GMT
2006-12-18 17:58:12 GMT
--- Dave Neary <dneary <at> free.fr> wrote: > > > The marketing team should define an overall goal > for GNOME. We should > > not just invent slogans. We also should not try to > "sell" GNOME. I > > think that we do not want that because than we > would want people to > > use GNOME instead of KDE or other desktops. But > that would not benefit > > but harm us! > > Here we disagree - the marketing team does not > define the goals, it > identifies and communicates them. We should be > herding aligned efforts, > and making people realise that they are aligned. I don't think the marketing team should define goals -- though we can perhaps suggest some based on feedback from users. However, I think that *somebody* should be defining goals for GNOME. The marketing team can take part in that, but it shouldn't be solely us. > Example: module maintainer 1 is working on > abstracting away some aspect > (functionality X) of his module behind a library. > The functionality he's > abstracting away could be useful for module > maintainer 2, who has a > long-standing feature request to include > functionality X. So one module > maintainer's "tidy up code" becomes another > maintainer's "Add > functionality X". That's going to be too technical for some members the marketing team. That's something we need 'glue-people' for -- developers who are on several teams or hop between them. > Or, in discussing plans with 4 or 5 maintainers, you > realise that > everyone really wants to implement Jono Bacon's > project spaces idea - > and you get David Trowbridge together with Elijah > Newren and a couple of > key application writers (say, gaim, epiphany, > nautilus) to > cross-polinate tagging and workspaces, and have a > couple of apps support > it, and wahay! Major new feature thanks to your > insight and effort in > putting the right people together. Again, this sort of thing should happen and it would be great, but I don't think marketing team should be doing it. Isn't it desktop-devel-list's job? Or if not them, who? > It's the difference between "I'm telling you what > you're going to work > on for the next 6 months" and "Just last week I was > talking to X about > $COOL_IDEA - you guys should talk and see if you > can't work on that > together. Well there's telling and there's suggesting. I think the free software ethos of 'everybody works on whatever they feel like', with no sort of planning & goal-setting can only get us so far. The last few releases of Gnome I've been involved in haven't had any sort of coherency to them. They've just been 'here's what we all did for the last 6 months'. The marketing team's managed to sift through and produce some sort of theme from that but it's not been very successful. This isn't just about making it easier to market a Gnome release. I think Gnome needs more focus and momentum. Like Thilo says in his later mail, we have some big shortcomings. Take printing -- we should be able to decide (ddl, or whichever gathering of glue developers) that 2.20 will be all about making printing on Gnome cool. A long-term roadmap like that would be a good start. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com