Anaik Trihoreau | 18 Aug 17:57
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From: Anaik Trihoreau <anaik@...>
Subject: [p2-dev] Re: [equinox-dev] P2 authoring reaches first milestone
Date: 2008-08-18 15:47:48 GMT
Hi Henrik,

We want to use p2 with a more user-friendly interface, for our 
development teams. The aim is to build some eclipse specific 
configurations, one per project. Thus, each developer working on a 
project has exactly the same configuration as his team members, and can 
only update the IUs allowed by the configuration manager.
Of course, the cherry on the cake would be to also be able to easily 
deal with the target platform under p2 control. Indeed, for "web 
projects", only the development environment is really useful, and target 
platform doesn't make sense. But, for complex Eclipse developments, we 
want to constrain both the development environment ("use Ecore Tools 
v.X", "use checkstyle Y", ...) _and_ the target platform.

As we want to create a user friendly IU editor, we're currently having a 
look at the work done by Henrik to see how to use it, how to add the 
features we need, and how to improve and simplify the user interface.

Here are some points we have thought about :

    * the Overview tab miss some properties, like a checkbox "Group",
      that could be checked by default. Furthermore, the "name" field
      doesn't seem to allow spaces? (see later for our Databinding
      comments).
      It's also probably necessary to add a tab allowing to edit every
      "non-standard" property of the IUs (every property whose name is
      not something like "org.eclipse.equinox.p2.*" ...?)

    * in Required Capabilities, we think it might be useful to have a
      wizard behind the "Add" action, to allow browsing for existing
      capabilities. 
          o Step 1) User can chose the source : IUs installed in the
            running profile, or IUs available into the referenced
            repositories
          o Step 2) User can then select some capabilities provided by
            these IUs (if he doesn't want the whole pack)
          o Step 3) User can enter differents options : a range (a
            "standard range" can be generated by default, in order not
            to have a strong dependency like
            "3.0.0.v200806092130-7C78ELSE8VrRVor6q2hez07sOLY" or
            something :-)), os/ws/arch/nl filter, greedy flag (default
            to checked), multiple, optional.
          o On "finish", the list of choosen items are added to required
            capabilities.

    * A similar wizard could also help to add Artifacts.
    * In the same way, a wizard may help to fill Provided Capabilities,
      making a list of capabilities that the IU is able to provide.
    * We think it would also be great to allow to easily export the
      edited IU into a new or existing repo., and, maybe, to directly
      propose a repository editor.

I had a look at the code base of the IU editor and I noticed that you're 
currently using your own implementation of Databinding (with Mutators, 
etc.). Was something missing in the Eclipse Databinding framework 
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/JFace_Data_Binding/Original_Design) ? I 
especially think this is great to deal with Forms because the 
MessageManager can directly be bound to the "validation context" of the 
binding, and things like conversions, validations, etc. are much more 
natural using the "declarative" approach of this framework.
Besides, some refactoring is certainly needed to be able to implement 
the features described above, and we would be very pleased to work hand 
in hand with you to make the editor better.

Henrik, what is your current status on this project?
Have you done some improvements that are not committed in the 
buckminster SVN?

Regards,

Anaik Trihoreau

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Benjamin CABÉ a écrit :
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sujet:
> [equinox-dev] P2 authoring reaches first milestone
> Expéditeur:
> Henrik Lindberg <henrik.lindberg@...>
> Date:
> Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:33:45 +0200
> Destinataire:
> Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@...>
>
> Destinataire:
> Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@...>
>
>
> Hi,
> I have now reached a first milestone in P2 IU authoring. This wikipage 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Metadata_Authoring has screenshots 
> of the editor. There are also instructions (at the top), where to find 
> the editor and how run it.
>
> To summarize:
> - IU files can be created and edited
> - Support for undo/redo and interactive error messages
>
> I have some questions regarding certain fields, and what makes sense 
> from an editing perspective. Some of those questions are on the wiki 
> page. Feel free to add comments or ideas to the wiki page.
> What remains to be supported:
> - creation of fragment
> - creation of patch
> - lookup in repositories.
> - "build/test" stuff
>
> Looking forward to receiving comments.
>
> best regards
>
> Henrik Lindberg
> henrik.lindberg@...
>
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