Lennart Augustsson | 5 Dec 00:36
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Re: IVars

That argument doesn't totally fly since non-termination isn't considered an effect in Haskell.  Bottom doesn't commute with a IO operations normally either.
But not having readIVar return 'IO a' does make me a little quesy. :)

  -- Lennart

On Dec 4, 2007 8:25 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj <at> microsoft.com> wrote:

But since the read may block, it matters *when* you perform it.  For example if you print "Hello" and then read the IVar, you'll block after printing; but if you read the IVar and then print, the print won't come out.  If the operation was pure (no IO) then you'd have a lot less control over when it happened.

 

Simon

 

From: haskell-bounces <at> haskell.org [mailto:haskell-bounces <at> haskell.org] On Behalf Of Lennart Augustsson
Sent: 04 December 2007 08:19
To: Conal Elliott
Cc: haskell <at> haskell.org
Subject: Re: [Haskell] IVars

 

Good question.  That must be a matter of taste, because as you say the read will always produce the same result.  But it sill is a bit of a strange operation.

  -- Lennart

On Dec 4, 2007 6:25 AM, Conal Elliott < conal <at> conal.net> wrote:

Oh.  Simple enough.  Thanks.

Another question:  why the IO in readIVar :: IVar a -> IO a, instead of just readIVar :: IVar a -> a?  After all, won't readIVar iv yield the same result (eventually) every time it's called?

 

On Dec 3, 2007 12:29 AM, Lennart Augustsson <lennart <at> augustsson.net> wrote:

You can make them from MVars.

On Dec 2, 2007 8:03 PM, Conal Elliott <conal <at> conal.net> wrote:

what became of (assign-once) IVars?  afaict, they were in concurrent haskell and now aren't.

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