Re: OSCON "contest"

Hey James

Good work!  I have a few suggestions...

* RoR people are impressed by smoke & mirrors.  Try to make the entry/ 
edit forms work as lightboxes.  It's a feature of Seaside and should  
be easy to implement, though not sure how well it behaves with  
Magritte... anyone?

* One nice thing about RoR and Django is that their default styles are  
very nice.  Are you allowed to prepare some styles and have them  
ready?  It looks a bit "raw" without.  Simple stuff like setting the  
font to something nice and getting rid of ugly table borders.

20 minutes is not much time at all... I think they're going to find in  
practice that most people are unable to get anything too impressive  
going.  The django guys tried to show off how fast it is to develop an  
app at a recent Portland python UG meeting, and 45 minutes later they  
were still puzzling over some silly little thing and never got a  
working app going...

Good luck!  And post the results to the group after!  especially if  
there's video or screencasts.

Cheers

Kyle
kyle <at> idealist.org

On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:34 PM, James Foster wrote:

> You are invited to view a sample application (with a link for GS/S  
> source code) at http://seaside.gemstone.com/seaside/recipes. Source  
> code can also be viewed at http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/ 
> FOSCON.html and you might be able to load my code into Squeak using  
> the following:
>
> 	MCHttpRepository
> 		location: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/FOSCON'
> 		user: ''
> 		password: ''
>
> Keep in mind that I consider myself more of a GemStone/S expert than  
> a Seaside expert and I'd welcome constructive criticism. I'm not  
> sure how much of the source code I can type in 10 or 15 minutes (we  
> are allowed 20 minutes and there will be new requirements held till  
> the start of the event). Any ideas of how I can make it smaller  
> would be especially welcome.
>
> James
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>
>> Should be doable. You should of course have an html layout before you
>> go. And have done several test runs.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Philippe
>>
>> 2008/7/16 James Foster <Smalltalk <at> jgfoster.net>:
>>> Yes, a couple of us at GemStone have asked to be included. As you  
>>> mention,
>>> it is a bit of a narrow scope, with 30 minutes being allowed, but  
>>> we'll try
>>> to represent the Seaside community as well as we can!
>>>
>>> James Foster
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Kyle Dawkins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Seasiders
>>>>
>>>> The RoR folks are running this at OSCON:
>>>>
>>>> http://pdxfoscon.org/competition
>>>>
>>>> Probably a good opportunity to show-off what Seaside can do.  I  
>>>> can't
>>>> attend so I can't volunteer but presumably since they mention  
>>>> Seaside and
>>>> Gemstone, there are some people already signed up in the Seaside  
>>>> camp?  Yes,
>>>> yes, it's a silly contest (and proves very little), but could  
>>>> result in a
>>>> few heads turned in our direction, no?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to watch this... hopefully someone will provide a  
>>>> screencast at
>>>> some point?!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>> kyle <at> idealist.org
>>>>
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