Re: OSCON "contest"

On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Kyle Dawkins wrote:

> Hey James
>
> Good work!  I have a few suggestions...
>
> * RoR people are impressed by smoke & mirrors.  Try to make the  
> entry/edit forms work as lightboxes.  It's a feature of Seaside and  
> should be easy to implement, though not sure how well it behaves  
> with Magritte... anyone?

I'm thinking that the Magritte stuff is overall helpful, but I already  
am extending it to get some missing features (JavaScript). I'm not  
sure what I'd do with lightboxes--mostly because I'm not that familiar  
with them.

> * One nice thing about RoR and Django is that their default styles  
> are very nice.  Are you allowed to prepare some styles and have them  
> ready?  It looks a bit "raw" without.  Simple stuff like setting the  
> font to something nice and getting rid of ugly table borders.

Yes, we'll spend some time beforehand looking into CSS (though other  
submissions are welcome!).

> 20 minutes is not much time at all... I think they're going to find  
> in practice that most people are unable to get anything too  
> impressive going.  The django guys tried to show off how fast it is  
> to develop an app at a recent Portland python UG meeting, and 45  
> minutes later they were still puzzling over some silly little thing  
> and never got a working app going...

We'll practice our script and hope to avoid that fate!

> Good luck!  And post the results to the group after!  especially if  
> there's video or screencasts.
>
> Cheers
>
> Kyle
> kyle <at> idealist.org
>
> On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:34 PM, James Foster wrote:
>
>> You are invited to view a sample application (with a link for GS/S  
>> source code) at http://seaside.gemstone.com/seaside/recipes. Source  
>> code can also be viewed at http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/ 
>> FOSCON.html and you might be able to load my code into Squeak using  
>> the following:
>>
>> 	MCHttpRepository
>> 		location: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/FOSCON'
>> 		user: ''
>> 		password: ''
>>
>> Keep in mind that I consider myself more of a GemStone/S expert  
>> than a Seaside expert and I'd welcome constructive criticism. I'm  
>> not sure how much of the source code I can type in 10 or 15 minutes  
>> (we are allowed 20 minutes and there will be new requirements held  
>> till the start of the event). Any ideas of how I can make it  
>> smaller would be especially welcome.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>
>>> Should be doable. You should of course have an html layout before  
>>> you
>>> go. And have done several test runs.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>> 2008/7/16 James Foster <Smalltalk <at> jgfoster.net>:
>>>> Yes, a couple of us at GemStone have asked to be included. As you  
>>>> mention,
>>>> it is a bit of a narrow scope, with 30 minutes being allowed, but  
>>>> we'll try
>>>> to represent the Seaside community as well as we can!
>>>>
>>>> James Foster
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Kyle Dawkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Seasiders
>>>>>
>>>>> The RoR folks are running this at OSCON:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pdxfoscon.org/competition
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably a good opportunity to show-off what Seaside can do.  I  
>>>>> can't
>>>>> attend so I can't volunteer but presumably since they mention  
>>>>> Seaside and
>>>>> Gemstone, there are some people already signed up in the Seaside  
>>>>> camp?  Yes,
>>>>> yes, it's a silly contest (and proves very little), but could  
>>>>> result in a
>>>>> few heads turned in our direction, no?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to watch this... hopefully someone will provide a  
>>>>> screencast at
>>>>> some point?!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Kyle
>>>>> kyle <at> idealist.org
>>>>>
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