Miguel de Icaza (Mono Chief) and Brendan Eich (Mozilla Chief) On MS-XAML/Avalon

Hello,

   InfoWorld has published a short interview of Miguel de Icaza (Mono
Chief) and Brendan Eich (Mozilla Chief) about Avalon/MS-XAML.

   Miguel de Icaza: Avalon is a very extensive API, but while there is
a lot of abstraction, there is not enough encapsulation. It's a
high-level standard toolkit. The problem we have today with Unix
toolkits, Mac OS toolkits, and Windows toolkits is that we are still
using the same controls. Developers and designers are building
applications in terms of the following items: scroll bars, enter
lines, buttons, text entries, radio buttons, pop-up menus, combo
boxes. Avalon is not presenting us with new controls or innovative
ways of dealing with large volumes of data. And yet this massive API
says you have to be completely bound to a particular version of the
.Net Framework. This is not the approach the Web has taken, which is
that a table or button can be rendered in different ways appropriate
to the platform.

 Brendan Eich: That's right. If you look at XAML's style language,
they really muddle the presentation/structure separation. 

   ... 

  Q: It's been argued that because there are 15 ways people have
approached XUL [Extensible User Interface Language], Flex, XAML,
whatever -- and you can't reconcile them -- maybe it's time for a de
facto standard implementation.

 Brendan Eich: XAML is not that thing, though, because, as Miguel
says, they've bound it too tightly to their class structure. And that
surprises me because they should have institutional memory of all the
versions of OLE and all the hell they had to go through in terms of
compatibility glue. Do they want to do that again?

   Source:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/16/29FElonghornreich_1.html

   - Gerald

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