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Re: Help with implementing drupal for a large organization

One thing I would consider

On Dec 3, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Tina Callahan wrote:
> • To start with, we see three drupal core installs: the first for  
> low-profile or non-aggressive site development, the second for  
> moderate development, and the third for aggressive development. The  
> thought behind this is to reduce the number of sites that we need to  
> review for conflicts with newly added or modified modules. Any  
> thoughts on this?
>
I would try to get as many of the simple generic sites as possible on  
a multi-site install, but don't be afraid to pull these out to their  
own codebase when they require a module that won't be used by other  
sites. Don't be afraid to migrate into a custom codebase when  
necessary, but use smart tools to keep the management to a minimum.  
Whether that is just a series of shell scripts, svn:externals, or even  
a distributed version control system

> 	• We are trying to develop a policy on user access to the file  
> system. We understand that there are users that won't want access,  
> but there will also be others that want to tweak modules and  
> themeing directories. Are there any suggestions on best practices  
> for allowing our users access to the files system? My systems folks  
> do not want to have the nightmare of granting access, but as a  
> developer myself, I think this is a must.

One technique here, might be to create an account for each group  
corresponding to their site's name, and give them a public_html folder  
within their home directory, that is in turn symlinked to public or  
something similar in the drupal root of their site, so that they can

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Shai Gluskin | 4 Dec 02:34

Re: Help with implementing drupal for a large organization

Tina,

I'm just making a small comment here that certainly doesn't respond at all to the breadth of your question...

I think you guys might be a great case for using the Acquia distribution, and likely some of their other services. It would bring some stability and coherence to what could be an incredibly complex set of installations.

I don't mean to be glib or suggest this is an all-encompassing solution in any way, but it seems like just vetting modules on it's own could use up a bunch of your resources and the Acquia installation does that for you.

That's all I have time for now,

Good luck. It's awesome that UD is going Drupal!

Shai
Content2zero

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Tina Callahan <tinytina <at> udel.edu> wrote:

I'm looking for any assistance, suggestions or contact information that might help me direct the implementation of Drupal as a University-wide web solution. Please read below to see more details about what I'm looking for. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

About Us
The University of Delaware (UD), located in Newark, Delaware, is now committed to rolling out Drupal as the primary web solution for the entire University. We currently have 7 colleges, 50 research centers, 23 intercollegiate athletic programs, numerous student organizations, and a long list of units that currently manage their current static html sites.

The Plan
We plan to offer drupal-based web hosting to any and all units, colleges, and organizations within the University community. Let's just say that we expect to run drupal as a multiple "multi-site" installs and are expecting 100+ sites.

At this point the plan is to run a production box with a mirrored development box for site modifications. We are building the servers on the UNIX environment using Drupal 6.

We need help in best practices for our user community. More explicitly:

We expect to set up a standard drupal install and add UD "vetted" modules. As new modules or updates become available, we expect that we will need to add these to the "core" set of modules that we will make available to all sites. (ie. sites/all/modules folder) Any suggestions on how to update modules and theme for a large number of sites?

To start with, we see three drupal core installs: the first for low-profile or non-aggressive site development, the second for moderate development, and the third for aggressive development. The thought behind this is to reduce the number of sites that we need to review for conflicts with newly added or modified modules. Any thoughts on this?

We are trying to develop a policy on user access to the file system. We understand that there are users that won't want access, but there will also be others that want to tweak modules and themeing directories. Are there any suggestions on best practices for allowing our users access to the files system? My systems folks do not want to have the nightmare of granting access, but as a developer myself, I think this is a must.

URL domains are also an issue. We have some sites that are subdomains (mysite.udel.edu), other sites are directory-based sites under the hosted domain (udel.edu/mysite). Udel.edu is running on another server. I feel confident that we can run the subdomains without much a problem, however, I am interested to see if there is a suggestion on what to do with the latter issue of udel.edu/mysite. I don't want to rewrite the URL or redirect. Any thoughts or comments on this?

Please note, I recently joined the Drupal in Ed group and plan to submit these questions more explicitly to them. I am also aware of the case studies on http://groups.drupal.org/taxonomy/term/4339. Sorry for the length of the message, please contact me if you have questions, comments, or suggestions.

Thanks!
-Tina

********************************** Tina Callahan 014 Smith Hall, Newark, DE 19716 University of Delaware 302-831-1982 tina.callahan <at> udel.edu **********************************

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Laura Scott | 4 Dec 00:47

Re: Version confusion

5.1.2 < 5.2 < 5.12 ... afaik.

Laura

On Dec 3, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Bob Salsburg wrote:

Ah! Enlightenment!

In some quarters, where the convention is used,5.1.2 would the lesser version.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Greg Knaddison <Greg <at> growingventuresolutions.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Bob Salsburg <bsisok <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I am using Drupal 5.12. It is the version available on the Download page.
> Lately, I have seen reference to a 5.2 version at various places on the
> Drupal site. Is this a typo? Or are their updates that I am missing?

Hi Bob,

That is a tricky thing.

Version numbers use the decimal as a separator, not an indication of a
fraction of a unit.

It's more "Version 5 Subversion 2" than it is "Version 5 and 2/10ths."

So, "Version 5 Subversion 12" is greater than "Version 5 Subversion 2."

Maybe you could add something about this to
http://drupal.org/handbook/version-info

Regards,
Greg

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jo | 4 Dec 00:22

Re: site down after i CHANGED the database password!

success!

thank you so much for your clear and great support!

now i know what happenend: i simply changed passwords in confixx without  knowing that it would also change
the database-password..

what i do not understand yet: why is it secure to have the mysql-password stored in plaintext?

many greetings from the snowy winterhills of the taunus

:-jo

--- Victor Kane <victorkane <at> gmail.com> schrieb am Mi, 3.12.2008:

> Von: Victor Kane <victorkane <at> gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: [support] site down after i deactivated views via phpmyadmin
> An: support <at> drupal.org
> Datum: Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2008, 21:00
> Once settings.php is pointed to the correct database with
> the correct
> username and password, and your fresh install is working,
> you can
> restore the database with your previous version, and you
> should be
> good to go.
> 
> You can do this either by installing Drupal anew, and
> filling in the
> correct database and user info during the installation, or
> else by
> directly editing settings.php.
> 
> The line you need to edit is the following (about half-way
> down):
> 
> $db_url =
> 'mysql://your-real-db-user-name:your-real-db-user-password <at> localhost/your-real-databasename';
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Victor Kane
> http://awebfactory.com.ar
> 
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, jo
> <joinkemel <at> yahoo.de> wrote:
> > thank you very much for your hints, now i am at least
> stuck at another point 
> >
> > i tried your option 1 (deleting all tables and
> restore) with no positive results.
> >
> > then i tried option 2 (reinstalling drupal by
> replacing all files with fresh drupal 6.6 files and a
> databank-restore, but also there was the same 'site
> down' errorpage.
> >
> > which i read again and remembered that it says i
> should have a look at settings.php.
> >
> > so next thing i did was renaming the settings.php with
> uglysettings.php and renaming default.settings.php with
> settings.php, so i would use the default settings from a
> fresh install - now i really was able to see the drupal
> installation-page where now i have problems with the
> database-configuration-step:
> >
> > with the name of my existing database and the user and
> password i enter in phpmyadmin to come in, drupal
> doesn't go to the next step, but also it doesn't
> create any errormessage, just all fields are empty again.
> > when i enter any adequate fantasy-names, it tells that
> this is the wrong password or username..why is that?
> >
> > and what should i do now, especially in case i would
> love to avoid creating all nodes again - is there any
> possibility to recreate the nodes from the old database when
> i do a fresh-install and the backup is faulty?
> >
> > :-jo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Victor Kane <victorkane <at> gmail.com> schrieb
> am Mi, 3.12.2008:
> >
> >> Von: Victor Kane <victorkane <at> gmail.com>
> >> Betreff: Re: [support] site down after i
> deactivated views via phpmyadmin
> >> An: support <at> drupal.org
> >> Datum: Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2008, 11:05
> >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, jo
> >> <joinkemel <at> yahoo.de> wrote:
> >> > dear list,
> >> >
> >> > as i am quite new to mysql-issues and the
> database, i
> >> don't know how to put my site to life again..
> >> >
> >> > as i had troubles with the installation of
> the
> >> views-module (all the other first 7 modules did
> install with
> >> no problems) i wanted to deactivate it.
> >> >
> >> > because i couldn't access my
> >> /admin/modules-frontend anymore, i used
> instructions on
> >> >
> >> > http://www.drupalcenter.de/handbuch/11551
> (german
> >> language)
> >> >
> >> > to deactivate the views-module(s) in the
> database
> >> using phpmyadmin. (open phpmyadmin, select system,
> find the
> >> views-moulde-entries, deactivate it with setting
> status to
> >> 0)
> >>
> >> Let's assume for the moment that the
> implementation of
> >> this advanced
> >> admin procedure did something wrong to the
> database, and
> >> that that
> >> left Drupal in an undefined state.
> >>
> >> But a restore to the database should have left
> things as
> >> they were.
> >>
> >> Try this:
> >>
> >> 1. Drop all the tables in the database.
> >> 2. Then restore from last week.
> >>
> >> If that doesn't work then something is amiss
> in the
> >> file system or on
> >> the server configuration. In that case, try a
> fresh Drupal
> >> install on
> >> the same database. If that works then restore
> again.
> >>
> >> Victor Kane
> >> http://awebfactory.com.ar
> >>
> >> >
> >> > after that, the site is down completely
> >> > (drupal error-site is showing "site
> down"
> >> > 'because of technical issues - please
> check your
> >> database settings in the settings.php file and
> ensure that
> >> your hosting provider's database server is
> running')
> >> >
> >> > so, what to do now?
> >> >
> >> > i already posted a forum-topic and followed
> the hint
> >> of one member with no results and even a complete
> >> confixx-restore with a backup of all files and the
> database
> >> i did one week ago when all was running well
> doesn't
> >> change anything.
> >> >
> >> > could it be, i should have taken the site
> down with my
> >> admin-frontend, before changing something in the
> database?
> >> >
> >> > thank you for reading anyhow
> >> >
> >> > :-jo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
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Raf Raf | 3 Dec 21:11

function for a view

Hello all,

I want to know how to "insert" a function in a view ? And to adapt it for a particular view ?
I don't find the way by the drupal's interface and in the template.php

It's exactly what I need, please see
http://drupalworx.com/links
and the function :

http://drupalworx.com/node/28

thank's
raf

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Fred Jones | 3 Dec 21:16

Paid for Memberships for Drupal 4.7

I have someone with a 4.7 site. He wants to add to it paid-for
memberships. I explained to him that were we to upgrade to D 5.x then
that is already available in either ecommerce or ubercart--it's a
snap.

He claims that he invested a lot in custom development for 4.7 and
doesn't have the budget right now to rebuild all of that. I am still
trying to clarify what exactly IS this custom work, but in the event
that there is a difficult path for him to upgrade right now, is there
any way to do paid-for memberships in 4.7? I barely even have worked
with 4.7.

Thanks.
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Johnny Xiao | 3 Dec 20:14

Replace username in search result with user alias

I like to replace username in search result with user alias which I
added to user table.

I know that $result['user'] in 
function mytheme_search_result(&$variables) {

contains the username, but I am not sure where I should go to change it
to user alias.

Kewei
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Bo Laurent | 3 Dec 17:12

Can't edit nodes (clicking 'save' just redisplays edit page)

I am running a newly installed D6.6. Suddenly, and suddenly I can't edit any nodes. I am running as admin (user 1). When I click edit, I see the edit screen, but when I click save, the edit screen is merely redisplayed.

I've tried disabling YUI wysiwyg editor, to no avail. I tried different browsers, to no avail. I tried logging out and back in, and I tried emptying the sessions table. I installed devel module, but still wasn't able to discern the cause of the problem.

Any advice about what might be happening?

Thanks,

Bo

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Victor Kane | 3 Dec 11:05

Re: site down after i deactivated views via phpmyadmin

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, jo <joinkemel <at> yahoo.de> wrote:
> dear list,
>
> as i am quite new to mysql-issues and the database, i don't know how to put my site to life again..
>
> as i had troubles with the installation of the views-module (all the other first 7 modules did install with
no problems) i wanted to deactivate it.
>
> because i couldn't access my /admin/modules-frontend anymore, i used instructions on
>
> http://www.drupalcenter.de/handbuch/11551 (german language)
>
> to deactivate the views-module(s) in the database using phpmyadmin. (open phpmyadmin, select system,
find the views-moulde-entries, deactivate it with setting status to 0)

Let's assume for the moment that the implementation of this advanced
admin procedure did something wrong to the database, and that that
left Drupal in an undefined state.

But a restore to the database should have left things as they were.

Try this:

1. Drop all the tables in the database.
2. Then restore from last week.

If that doesn't work then something is amiss in the file system or on
the server configuration. In that case, try a fresh Drupal install on
the same database. If that works then restore again.

Victor Kane
http://awebfactory.com.ar

>
> after that, the site is down completely
> (drupal error-site is showing "site down"
> 'because of technical issues - please check your database settings in the settings.php file and ensure
that your hosting provider's database server is running')
>
> so, what to do now?
>
> i already posted a forum-topic and followed the hint of one member with no results and even a complete
confixx-restore with a backup of all files and the database i did one week ago when all was running well
doesn't change anything.
>
> could it be, i should have taken the site down with my admin-frontend, before changing something in the database?
>
> thank you for reading anyhow
>
> :-jo
>
>
>
>
>
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Christopher M. Jones | 2 Dec 22:23

Re: getting rid of "soandso's picture" text

Thanks, yes. I assumed that step. To clarify: I have pictures enabled 
and they show in my templates.  But where no picture exists, because the 
user has not uploaded one, I have a link that reads "username's 
picture". I not only want to remove that link but I want to adjust the 
layout to compensate for the lack of a picture.

Dale McGladdery wrote:
> You didn't mention turning on Picture Support in user settings. To do
> so go to Adminster | User management | User settings
> (/admin/user/settings) and scroll down to the "Picture support"
> section. This is where you select you default picture, as well.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Christopher M. Jones
> <cjones <at> partialflow.com> wrote:
>> I'm using Drupal five, building a theme off of Zen. I want to optionally
>> display a user's picture in posts, so that if the user has uploaded a
>> picture then it is displayed, and if not then the teaser view shifts
>> left to occupy that space.
>>
>> So I turned on pictures in the theme configuration. But now, where there
>> is no picture available, I have a "soandso's picture" link.
>>
>> Specifically: I want if( $picture ){...} in the .tpl.php file to
>> evaluate to FALSE if there is no picture, TRUE if there is one. How can
>> I get this behavior? Is there a theme override that I'm missing?
>>
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Daniel Carrera | 2 Dec 20:30

Re: Permissions problem: edit page content

Jonathan Hedstrom wrote:
> Daniel Carrera wrote:
>> What are input filters?
>>   
> If the "site developers" don't have, for example, permission to use the
> full HTML, and the pages in question are written in full HTML, they
> won't be able to edit them.

Ah, thanks.

Anyways, the input filters were not the problem. I don't know what the 
problem was, but whatever it is, it's gone now. This is what I did:

1. I ran "rebuild permissions" again. This broke the permissions and 
made the "access denied" error come back.

2. But no worries, I implemented Victor's solution again. I cleared 
node_access and inserted the one row Victor said.

Then, like magic, all the permissions seem to work right.

Cheers,
Daniel.
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