[Trac-dev] Re: make i18n practicable

Christian Boos wrote:
> Hi Jeroen,
> 
> Wow, it makes me a bit sad that you're taking things that way.
> Please don't - I'm really open to the discussion and don't want to 
> enforce "my" way.
> I just had the impression that we left the discussion on #IRC with no 
> real conclusion, so that's why I wanted to raise the topic again on 
> trac-dev. It's nothing /that/ serious, I'd be OK with how things are 
> now, but I really thought there would be no problem in discussing and 
> trying out alternatives. We're only at the beginning, so experimenting 
> should be OK - you had your time for experimenting in the sandbox and I 
> didn't join the fun by then, but now that i18n is in trunk (and the more 
> urgent stuff for 0.11 is behind me) I felt inclined to join the work on 
> i18n, experiment and try to improve things there as well.

Why? Was there a problem with the way i18n was progressing? I understand 
that merging to trunk means it is out in the open, but I think you are 
mistaking that for a request for help.

> That was really not the intent - I spent the whole day yesterday 
> improving the translation infrastructure, fixing bugs (some were really 
> critical, I hope you noticed), adding french translations (even if not 
> perfect, for sure), etc. all this while my primary interest is /not/ in 
> the translations, just because it's now in trunk and that I somehow feel 
> co-responsible for it now. Some day I should really stop being the all 
> purpose guy for tackling every outstanding issue, if all that I get back 
> is such kind of acrimonious reaction when I dare moving things forward.
> See? It's easy to get pissed off in such a project when you put a lot of 
> time and energy into it, and for the better or the worse, no one does it 
> alone (quoique...), so please get over your first reaction.

Again, were things not moving forward? We have always let people own 
their little projects for the most part. For example, I wouldn't go make 
changes to the workflow system without checking with Eli first. If there 
was some huge problem and he disappeared for a while, thats a different 
story. However that is not the case, and I don't anticipate him leaving, 
so its still his game. Similarly you have been mostly left alone on the 
wiki formatter and parser system lately. I only ask you extend this 
courtesy to others.

> So I'd really appreciate if you could get back to my previous mail (of 
> yesterday) and answer to the open points I raised there, comment and 
> criticize what I presented (e.g. that tag_ stuff is probably not 
> perfect, feel free to beat it up).

This is a different issue, and trying to mingle the two is also unhelpful.

--Noah