Re: [FFmpeg-cvslog]?r10889?-?trunk/libavcodec/allcodecs.c

Hello,

On 1 Nov 2007, at 01:27, Ismail Dönmez wrote:
> Thursday 01 November 2007 Tarihinde 03:17:49 yazmıştı:
>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:30:08AM +0200, Ismail Dönmez wrote:
>>> Thursday 01 November 2007 Tarihinde 02:31:54 yazmıştı:
>>>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:17:45AM +0200, Ismail Dönmez wrote:
>>>>> Thursday 01 November 2007 Tarihinde 01:58:27 yazmıştı:
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:33:20AM +0200, Ismail Dönmez wrote:
>>>>>>> Thursday 01 November 2007 Tarihinde 01:38:22 yazmıştı:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and the best way to fix this anyway is to drop support
>>>>>>>>>> for libvorbis decoding 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or remove non-working vorbis encoder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or remove the libvorbis encoder, that way the vorbis encoder
>>>>>>>> will soon be fixed by volunteers ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you like to bet on that? :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sure, would a soon = "5 years" be ok? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Heheh, you got the point 
>>>>
>>>> would you bet on some volunteer implementing it in 5 years if  
>>>> libvorbis
>>>> stays default?
>>>
>>> No,
>>
>> see, the libvorbis encoder should be removed

That depends on the goal of FFmpeg. Do we want the goal to be to  
implement all codecs better than everyone else regardless of whether  
someone else is better in the meantime? Not that it's any kind of  
spoken rule and I don't mean to offend anyone but I get the feeling  
that MPlayer's goal is to use whatever is currently the best and  
FFmpeg's goal is more idyllic, to develop the best, possibly with the  
exception of x264 for some reason. (Because it's too good? :))

> In 5 years we might have just another codec, its just too long to  
> remove a
> working implementation. So please, don't break whats working.  
> Instead audio
> people should focus on a working AAC encoder.

Isn't high-quality lossy audio compression mostly about  
psychoacoustic tuning? Is it possible to create very well performing  
generic models to be used across multiple codecs? (SoC project?) Then  
work on AAC would benefit Vorbis too. :)

Oh, and don't you have to specify the audio encoder if you want to  
encode anything but the default audio codec? In which case there is  
no default vorbis encoder as it has to be specified.

Just some random musings.

Rob
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