Re: A comment on your website content

Alan Chandler wrote:
> A couple of years ago, I spent a short while using Cinelerra to produce
> some videos I wanted to make.  Some parts of it had been quite painful,
> and I was therefore extremely interested when the Lumiera project
> started to get underway.
> 
> I would occasionally see what progress you had made looking at the wiki
> etc linked from the web site.  Monthly meetings were being held and
> decisions were being taken.
> 
> Today, I decided to come looking again.  My immediate thought was that
> the project had stopped and that little if any action seems to have
> occurred. The wiki minutes of the meeting petered out.  It was only
> after I stumbled upon a link to your mailman mailing list that I
> realised that there was recent activity.
We are alive and kicking, but extremely underpowered, updating the
website an putting some 'News' there felt a bit behind. Still we held
meetings contingously we just needs some system to bring the meeting
conclusions to the web soon, writing protocolls is some task no one
likes :P.

I am currently (still duh!) working on uwiki, the infrastructure which
will make maintaining the website much easier in future. But we still
rely on help, programmers foremost but anyone willing to give a hand on
website content and design should consider to help. Currently the
programming at uwiki and other infrastructure things holds me back from
working at Lumiera, thats a bit unfortunate but as long no one else
helps this is just the way to go. We can only make as much progress as
people work on the project, if anyone just sits waiting for it, it will
take indefinitely (well we are few people working on it, its not a stall).

Ichthyo breeding on the interface between high-level and gui. Joel is
busy with his new job, but I hope he will be available soon again. Plouj
 started on backend system prgramming. Some others not mentioned here
did something here and there.

Btw: our issue tracker (http://issues.lumiera.org/) logs to the
lumiera-work mailing list (which is boring for non-developers). But
nevertheless you can see a lot progress there:
 http://lists.lumiera.org/pipermail/lumiera-work/2009q4/thread.html

> 
> Almost immediately I saw the proposal for the new contents of the web
> site.  Can I be so bold as to suggest that one key link on your web site
> should be to the mailing list archives.  It is then possible to quickly
> see that the project is still active, even when you mean to update
> recent news, but somehow never get around to it.

Agreed, I also want to make the Developers pages easier reachable since
thats whats currently of most interest. While, again just ideas or
proposals don't bring us futher we need helpers who actually do this jobs!

> 
> The second point I would make is that the relationship with this
> project, and the state of development of Cinelerra CV needs
> clarification, especially as you make a point of saying that Lumiera is
> not yet usable.  I see many of the posters on the Cinelerra CV list be
> the same names as contributing to Lumiera, so the question is - is
> Cinelerra CV still being maintained (and therefore endorsed by this team
> as what should be used for now). But longer term.  Is it anticipated
> that this project will supercede Cinelerra CV, or will they retain a
> parallel existence.

CinelerraHV is maintained by heroinewarrior and he made few updates in
recent time. CinelerraCV as community project has the same problems as
Lumiera has, it is maintained, but only as fast as people working on it
and currently there are no much people working on merging the HV
improvements back to CV. Still Cinlerra is likely the most capable Video
 Editor on Linux and we suggest to use it until Lumiera is ready.

> 
> I hope, as an outsider, you don't mind these comments from me. I am not
> subscribed to the list, so please copy me on any reply you want me to see.

Well I would like to invite you to join the project and contribute as
much as you can do, even very small contributions count! We really rely
on any help we can get.

	Christian