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Rob Rothwell | 19 Apr 14:37

Re: Visual Studio 2008

Thanks Janko.

It's hard to fight the lure of drag-and-drop with a Smalltalk learning curve!

That's why I still feel like a framework that could generate maintainable code, at least to get people started, would be useful.  The would see the relationship between placing the button and the generated code easily because there would be so little code to generate!

The code generated by other tools seems very hard to follow, or is not given to you at all (VB, for example).

I've mentioned your success before, but will pass this along in your own voice!

Thanks,

Rob

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek <at> eranova.si> wrote:

Hi Rob,

As you already mention it is a long-term mantability and extendability of Smalltalk systems what should count, not short-term flashy, cool painting of your apps with Visual Studio, which soon start to became spaghetti code and you need to start rewriting them again. That's what M$ like a lot of course ...

On the contrary Smalltalk (and Aida) apps are almost eternal, they can stand years and years of continuous change, yet stay maintainable. Let me just point to 10 years anniversary of longest living Aida app: a Gas Billing System for out National Gas Company, billing all the gas in Slovenia: http://www.aidaweb.si/news/anniversaries-records.html

Best regards
Janko

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<p>Thanks Janko.<br><br>It's hard to fight the lure of drag-and-drop with a Smalltalk learning curve!<br><br>That's why I still feel like a framework that could generate maintainable code, at least to get people started, would be useful.&nbsp; The would see the relationship between placing the button and the generated code easily because there would be so little code to generate!<br><br>The code generated by other tools seems very hard to follow, or is not given to you at all (VB, for example).<br><br>I've mentioned your success before, but will pass this along in your own voice!<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Rob<br><br>On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Janko Miv&scaron;ek &lt;<a href="mailto:janko.mivsek <at> eranova.si">janko.mivsek <at> eranova.si</a>&gt; wrote:<br></p>
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Hi Rob,<br><br>
As you already mention it is a long-term mantability and extendability of Smalltalk systems what should count, not short-term flashy, cool painting of your apps with Visual Studio, which soon start to became spaghetti code and you need to start rewriting them again. That's what M$ like a lot of course ...<br><br>
On the contrary Smalltalk (and Aida) apps are almost eternal, they can stand years and years of continuous change, yet stay maintainable. Let me just point to 10 years anniversary of longest living Aida app: a Gas Billing System for out National Gas Company, billing all the gas in Slovenia: <a href="http://www.aidaweb.si/news/anniversaries-records.html" target="_blank">http://www.aidaweb.si/news/anniversaries-records.html</a><br><br>
Best regards<br>
Janko<br>
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