10 May 21:13
Re: Question about Aida vs Seaside
From: Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Question about Aida vs Seaside
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.web.server.aida
Date: 2008-05-10 19:13:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Question about Aida vs Seaside
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.web.server.aida
Date: 2008-05-10 19:13:36 GMT
Le samedi 10 mai 2008 à 10:47 -0400, Rob Rothwell a écrit : > Sure...I think best "out loud" around other people, so I hope you > don't mind going "back and forth!" > > I don't think I can call myself a compete Smalltalk "novice" anymore, > though I still feel like it compared with everyone else out there. My > programming experience is purely procedural: Assembly, VisualBasic, > etc..., but I was always trying to do Smalltalk-ish stuff. It has > taken me a LONG time to be able to do "useful work." > > Also keep in mind that I COMPLETELY missed the web-programming > movement while I was in the Army. I have NO experience with HTML, > CSS, Javascript, etc, etc, etc... > > With that in mind, I found Seaside challenging because it builds on > your [pre-existing] web knowledge. > > Aida, in my mind, is much "simpler" in this regard, or at least more > "abstract." I could actually (for the most part) "figure it out" by > browsing the classes and the WebDemoApp methods. > > The idea of "naming conventions" confused me at first about Aida--you > MUST have a domain object (MyObject) that is the domain model for your > application (MyObjectApp). Starting and stopping your site is a bit > rough, and styling your site can be confusing. I can change the style > now, but am no good at CSS, so I am limited in what I can change. > > For Squeak, Nicolas is doing some great Scriptaculous work > (http://nico.bioskop.fr/). It's not only for Squeak, but for the next Aida release (6.0) in general. So it will be available for Squeak, VW and Gemstone/S :) Cheers! Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://nico.bioskop.fr ___ ooooooo OOOOOOOOO |Smalltalk| OOOOOOOOO ooooooo \ / [|] -------------------------------- Ma clé PGP est disponible ici : http://nico.bioskop.fr/pgp-key.html
Le samedi 10 mai 2008 à 10:47 -0400, Rob Rothwell a écrit : > Sure...I think best "out loud" around other people, so I hope you > don't mind going "back and forth!" > > I don't think I can call myself a compete Smalltalk "novice" anymore, > though I still feel like it compared with everyone else out there. My > programming experience is purely procedural: Assembly, VisualBasic, > etc..., but I was always trying to do Smalltalk-ish stuff. It has > taken me a LONG time to be able to do "useful work." > > Also keep in mind that I COMPLETELY missed the web-programming > movement while I was in the Army. I have NO experience with HTML, > CSS, Javascript, etc, etc, etc... > > With that in mind, I found Seaside challenging because it builds on > your [pre-existing] web knowledge. > > Aida, in my mind, is much "simpler" in this regard, or at least more > "abstract." I could actually (for the most part) "figure it out" by > browsing the classes and the WebDemoApp methods. > > The idea of "naming conventions" confused me at first about Aida--you > MUST have a domain object (MyObject) that is the domain model for your > application (MyObjectApp). Starting and stopping your site is a bit > rough, and styling your site can be confusing. I can change the style > now, but am no good at CSS, so I am limited in what I can change. > > For Squeak, Nicolas is doing some great Scriptaculous work > (http://nico.bioskop.fr/). It's not only for Squeak, but for the next Aida release (6.0) in general. So it will be available for Squeak, VW and Gemstone/S :) Cheers! Nico -- -- Nicolas Petton http://nico.bioskop.fr ___ ooooooo OOOOOOOOO |Smalltalk| OOOOOOOOO ooooooo \ / [|] -------------------------------- Ma clé PGP est disponible ici : http://nico.bioskop.fr/pgp-key.html
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