8 Aug 2011 21:01
Re: Two x displays (not xinerama) support
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Dave Foster <daf@...> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2011, at 3:34 AM, Mikael Magnusson wrote: > >> On 18 July 2011 01:27, Freddie <freddie_signup@...> wrote: >>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Mikael Magnusson wrote: >>>> >>>> It's technically possible, but it doesn't mesh well with the wm-spec >>>> which openbox follows. Ie, any pagers and panels would be terminally >>>> confused about those windows, there is only a single 'which desktop is >>>> this window on' property per window, and one global 'which desktop is >>>> the user on' property on the root window. For this specific case, >>>> maybe you could simply mark all windows on monitor two as 'All >>>> Desktops'? Unless you also want to switch virtual desktop on monitor >>>> 2, but you didn't say that :). >>> >>> This is actually the conclusion I've come to. The next problem is finding >>> how to mark windows on monitor 2 as omnipresent, as so far I've only come >>> across "ToggleOmnipresent", which isn't quite what I want. Am I missing an >>> action/property? >> >> You're not, I was just sure there was one, but there isn't :). You >> could do some silly cludge in the master branch with the If action, to >> only call the toggle action if it isn't currently omnipresent, but it >> might be better to simply let you say "All" to the SendToDesktop >> action. However, if you're already using an applications rule to send >> a window to monitor 2, just make it omnipresent in that rule >> obviously. Is it a big problem that you press the key twice and can't >> tell if you already made it omnipresent or not? > > Sorry to necromance here, but just wanted to add that once I got Dana interested in such a daemon-like application, and myself started coding one, but did not get very far as X programming scares me. Maybe Dana can pick it back up again :) > > The way I'd envision it working: post-move hook, it checks which monitor it is on, and applies a rule (make omipresent). Would obviously be beneficial to be generic. After failing to build my own window manager (using Python), I am currently modifying Openbox to support the original idea in this thread: changing desktops on a per monitor basis. I've been wanting this feature for so long, and since I added a third monitor to my setup, I've found it to be nearly essential. It's going to be a bit more than a post-move hookAs Mikael mentioned, this violates the EWMH spec and is essentially incompatible with all existing pagers. (I need to make one of those too.) I'm adding a new property called _NET_VISIBLE_DESKTOPS that should provide all the information an outside application (like a pager) needs. (Maybe I'll submit it to the EWMH people, but they haven't updated the spec in a long time...) The _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP property is still relevant, I think. Ideally, this should only change behavior on multi-head setups using Xinerama. Hopefully I'll make a public branch of Openbox available soon; I plan on keeping it up to date with Dana's master branch. The only window managers I know of that exhibit this feature are Xmonad and i3; except the latter ties each desktop to a specific monitor that can't be used on other monitors. That is, only Xmonad gets this right in my opinion. > > >> >>> As an aside, what do other xinerama users do about setting background >>> images? I wanted to set two images, one for each monitor. The only tool I've >>> found to allow placing an image at a coordinate is hokum, which actually >>> works quite well. >> >> http://projects.l3ib.org/nitrogen/ > > Cheers for the plug :) Nitrogen is awesome! Thanks
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As Mikael mentioned, this violates the EWMH spec and is essentially
incompatible with all existing pagers. (I need to make one of those
too.) I'm adding a new property called _NET_VISIBLE_DESKTOPS that
should provide all the information an outside application (like a
pager) needs. (Maybe I'll submit it to the EWMH people, but they
haven't updated the spec in a long time...) The _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP
property is still relevant, I think.
Ideally, this should only change behavior on multi-head setups using
Xinerama. Hopefully I'll make a public branch of Openbox available
soon; I plan on keeping it up to date with Dana's master branch.
The only window managers I know of that exhibit this feature are
Xmonad and i3; except the latter ties each desktop to a specific
monitor that can't be used on other monitors. That is, only Xmonad
gets this right in my opinion.
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>>> As an aside, what do other xinerama users do about setting background
>>> images? I wanted to set two images, one for each monitor. The only tool I've
>>> found to allow placing an image at a coordinate is hokum, which actually
>>> works quite well.
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