14 Apr 07:52
State of the Step April 2008
From: chris <jugg@...>
Subject: State of the Step April 2008
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.windows.shells.litestep
Date: 2008-04-14 05:53:16 GMT
Subject: State of the Step April 2008
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.windows.shells.litestep
Date: 2008-04-14 05:53:16 GMT
Dear LiteSteppers, When you least expect it... an update from your friendly LiteStep Development Team: Welcome to the April 2008 edition of the State of the Step! On the agenda this time: 1. The Development Team 2. LiteStep vs. Litestep 3. LiteStep 0.24.8 4. Windows Vista 5. In Closing... Go! 1. The Development Team - A(nother) new lineup ------------------------- Development at a snail's pace... and that's being nice. jugg and I (ilmcuts) have been working on the core on and off, but that's hardly enough to fulfill the expectations. Thus we went out recruiting people. Of the several people we contacted, we are proud to announce that three have accepted the offer. Welcome, Acidfire, Tobbe, and Xjill! This means the devteam now is: Acidfire ilmcuts jugg Tobbe Xjill Even with the new lineup it will be very hard to follow through with everything we need and would like to do. We're trying our best but very much want and need any help we can get. We hope that others we have talked to will decide to work with us as well. If you are interested in being part of the team, please let us know! We have also revived our contact mail address. You can now reach the LS Development Team by writing to: devteam at lsdev.org. 2. LiteStep vs. Litestep -------------------------- The ongoing, never ending debate. Well, we hope to "officially" end it once and for all. We will be deciding on the LSDev Team official capitalization of LiteSTEP before the next release. So, if you have any heart felt comments to add to the discussion now is the time do so. 3. LiteStep 0.24.8 -------------------- While we may have been quiet in terms of even experimental releases, our CVS history reveals "+8946/-3915 lines changed" since June 01, 2007. Note that this number includes documentation changes or copyright date changes too. The change history since 0.24.7 is "+14949/-7705 lines changed". Unfortunately, the release of 0.24.8 has been held up. However, unless you are on Vista, the experimental builds contain much of what is going to be in the final. What is the problem, then? While we are no longer striving for full Vista compatibility in this particular release (more on that below), there are a couple of bugs that are just not acceptable in a release. Missing volume controls may just barely be acceptable, but broken startup applications or LiteStep crashing on startup is not. Since the last experimental build, which contained the new math parser, for example, we have continued to work on AppBar support, made sure that Explorer will run if you boot into safe mode(*), have fixed numerous small bugs, and some more, besides all the Vista changes. We're looking at getting out a Beta release which will have all that but will not yet have fixes for all known Vista issues. If we can't find the time to do a proper Beta we will at least be posting another experimental build. If you can't wait for that you're free to compile your own "nightly" builds! Feel free to ask us for support if you need help doing that. (*) We are starting Explorer in safe mode because you might be trying to fix a broken LiteStep by going there. Lots of beginners use it when they get scared after installing LiteStep and want to remove it again. 4. Windows Vista ------------------ In case there is any confusion, we're trying to make the usual 32-Bit LiteStep work on both 32-Bit and 64-Bit Vista. While a 64-Bit LiteStep has been compiled, it shares almost all problems of the 32-Bit version and offers little in return. On top of that, it requires rebuilt modules. So our focus for the foreseeable future will be on 32-Bit LiteStep. While LiteStep does somewhat work on Windows Vista as is, there are several problems. For example, the welcome screen delay is back. Some startup apps are being run twice, some not at all. Tray tooltips are broken and some tray icons like the volume icon don't appear at all. LiteStep no longer detects if Explorer has already run startup apps and vice versa. Some system sounds aren't being played. The wallpaper isn't always shown, all you get is a black desktop. Etc. etc. Unfortunately, for each issue that we fix another one or two are uncovered. Trying to fix them all would hold up the release indefinitely. But we're looking at fixing the worst of the issues. In fact, except for the missing icons, we believe we can fix all of the above. Given the history, however, it wouldn't surprise us if one or two fixes didn't work out in the end. Still, LiteStep 0.24.8 should be usable on Vista. Maybe not the Betas, but the final release should. 4. In Closing... ------------------ This marks the end of this State of the Step. If you have any questions or suggestions please feel free to respond via the LSML, IRC, or our contact mail. We will be happy to talk to you. Happy LiteStepping, - The LiteStep Development Team --- http://www.lsdev.org/ --- #lsdev on irc.freenode.org --- devteam at lsdev.org ps. I (jugg) am relaying this update from ilmcuts. pps. I hope this spring is finding everyone well. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org
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