Re: Laundry list for NGC

Tis better to do what needs to be done and ask for forgiveness later than to ask permission and not get 'r dun.

(The first part is from Admiral Grace Hopper, the last part is a paraphrase because I don't remember how she
said it to my graduating HS class several decades ago)

-Aaron
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PS Go, Tim, Go!

-----Original Message-----
From: Next generation catalogs for libraries [mailto:NGC4LIB <at> listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Spalding
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:41 AM
To: NGC4LIB <at> listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: [NGC4LIB] Laundry list for NGC

I think CDs and DVDs might be biting off too much. So long as there's no deep problem with adding them later,
what's lost if we start with books? What's new and interesting here is the idea of community participation
and open data. Karen's post-new info to me, thanks!-shows there might be problems matching CD and DVD
covers to library data. Can't we explore what's new with books alone?

Tim

On 12/14/06, Karen Coyle <kcoyle <at> kcoyle.net> wrote:
> Except for the ISBN, the UPC/EAN code isn't always stored in
> bibliographic records created in the US. The numbers that are stored
> for CDs are the publisher numbers ("Philips 422 416-2") and they are
> not entered in a consistent format, unfortunately. UPC/EANs do seem to
> be showing up on newer CD records. So getting a link to CDs is going
> to take some thought. (I looked on Amazon, and CDs seem to be
> identified only by the ASIN, which Amazon assigns when there isn't
> another reliable
> identifier.)
>
> I imagine that DVDs will be equally difficult.
>
> kc
>
> Lynn Reynish wrote:
> > Hmmmm.... UPC/EAN-code may indeed be an alternative. It would
> > certainly be no worse than an ISBN.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > Anders Ringnér wrote:
> >> From: "Lynn Reynish" <lreynish <at> RPL.REGINA.SK.CA>
> >>> This does sound like a great project. However, I will note that
> >>> ISBN is probably not enough if you want to include CDs and DVDs -
> >>> most of which don't have ISBNs. Amazon uses an ASIN for these
> >>> items but I'm not sure if there are any widespread standard
> >>> numbers in use for CDs or DVDs outside of mainstream Western
> >>> classical/pop/rock music (which often has a music number). ISBNs
> >>> have their own problems of course - but at least they exist for a
> >>> lot of items.
> >>
> >> Would using the UPC/EAN-code be an alternative? If we then
> >> converted all ISBN-10 to ISBN-13, which in fact is identical to the
> >> EAN, we'd end up with the same style of numbers for all objects,
> >> regardless of format (book, CD, DVD and so on). All pictures would
> >> be stored by their EAN-code.
> >>
> >> /Anders
> >
> > --
> > Lynn Reynish
> > ILS Librarian
> > Regina Public Library
> > lreynish <at> reginalibrary.ca
> >
> >
>
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