9 Feb 18:57
A Mamzer Marrying a Shifchah
Micha Berger <micha <at> aishdas.org>
2012-02-09 17:57:18 GMT
2012-02-09 17:57:18 GMT
The topic came up on Areivim about the possibility of a mamzer "marrying" a shifchah, in which case the children are acadim, and when freed, wouldn't be mamzeirim. RAZZ asked me to put up on the archive "The Mamzer and the Shifcha" by R' David Katz <http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/faxes/mamzerShifcha.pdf>. The discussion there appears to be hanging on the problem of dina demalkhusa. Which can mean one or both of the following: 1- We live in countries where slavery is illegal. Therefore, one can't suggest lekhat-chilah that one buy a slave in the US, it's assur. I presume this could be avoided by: a- moving to Israel, so that if one holds like the Ran's understanding of Tosafos, and not like RAYK that Medinat Yisrael has at least some of the laws of malkhus DDD doesn't apply (to a non-melekh in EY). b- making a chiluq between a shifchah as defined in halakhah and a slave as defined in civil law, and thus find a way to have a shifchah who isn't a slave. 2- There is a rule in CM that by default, the norms of your host society are fiscally binding. Therefore one could argue that it is impossible to buy a shifchah in a country where buying people is illegal. Possible ways out: a- Is DDD in this sense the law on the books, or the de facto reality? And does your country have enough vilators (eg in the prostitution trade) that we can say buying people qualifies as de facto effective (even if illegal)? b- A variant of the same idea as 1b. We would presumably be looking a way in which halakhah recognizes the qinyan of a shifchah in a way that the laws about buying people doesn't apply. Tir'u baTov! -Micha -- -- Micha Berger The trick is learning to be passionate in one's micha <at> aishdas.org ideals, but compassionate to one's peers. http://www.aishdas.org Fax: (270) 514-1507 _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah <at> lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org
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