18 Jun 15:04
Re: hpv Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
From: Chris Spollen <cjspollen <at> aol.com>
Subject: Re: hpv Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
Newsgroups: gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.general
Date: 2008-06-18 13:04:04 GMT
Subject: Re: hpv Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
Newsgroups: gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.general
Date: 2008-06-18 13:04:04 GMT
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Please DO NOT copy the original message in its entirety; it wastes space. Either reply without copying, or edit the copied text so that only the pertinent information is provided. Thanks. Today's Topics: 1. Steampunk Trike (Jake von Slatt) 2. Re: la times article (SueW) 3. Re: LAT story on recumbents (fred ungewitter) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:10:20 -0400 From: "Jake von Slatt" <jake <at> vonslatt.com> To: hpv <at> ihpva.org Subject: [hpv] Steampunk Trike Message-ID: <824b9c610806161310i3d49597fhf0fb6a4ccd46d4d6 <at> mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Hi Everyone, It's been years since I've posted here but I've been reading right along. I thought you might be interested in a trike that a reader of my web site 'The Steampunk Workshop' sent in. It's a fairly conventional tadpole design but it's been outfitted 'Steampunk' style and includes a pair of kerosene coach lamps! The story is here: http://steampunkworkshop.com/the-brass-lion-steampunk-recumbent Cheers! Jake. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:23:26 -0700 From: "SueW" <gswidemark <at> cox.net> To: <hpv <at> bikelist.org> Subject: [hpv] Re: la times article Message-ID: <006d01c8cfff$9902d950$6401a8c0 <at> opusdei> References: <MONKEYFOODVRqgCWEWE00000d11 <at> monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Well, I can see how they subtly tried to emphasize all the usual = objections to recumbents i.e. "recumbut" and "too low to the ground" = etc. However, we must remember the old saying "there is no such thing = as bad publicity only publicity." :) SueW still riding the laid back way - just a bit older...well A LOT = older! :) ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:25:52 -0700 = (PDT) > From: LioNiNoiL <lioninoil <at> yahoo.com> >=20 > = http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-recumbent16-2008jun16,0,2780= 272.story >=20 > Janet Cromley wrote: >=20 >>> Nestled in a tandem recumbent bike... >>> Technically, it is a trike... >=20 > Bloody newspaper writers. >=20 > ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ > +Las Vegas, Nevada+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:01:00 -0400 From: fred ungewitter <g.u <at> juno.com> To: hpv <at> bikelist.org Subject: [hpv] Re: LAT story on recumbents Message-ID: <20080616.190101.244.4.g.u <at> juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 I'm seldom surprised when an inaccuracy appears in the popular media. I'm more often surprised when an article is accurate. I wrote an email to the journalist taking her to task on the "recumbents are hard to see" portion, although my criticism was not directed at her. Sadly, recumbent riders are as much at fault, and I was once a guilty accomplice. I've since reformed and become a vehicular cyclist and I no longer have to make the traditional qualifier, "recumbents are more visible because they are different." I politely suggested to Janet Cromley to research vehicular and effective cycling, rather than fire off an unwarranted scathing email. Even though my velomobile is probably lower than many recumbents, drivers of motor vehicles have no problem seeing me, as I occupy the center of the lane. The roadways on which I usually drive are multi-lane, so traffic is able to go around me easily enough. Lucky for me, Florida Statutes do not require the use of shoulders or bike lanes, as in some states, and also consider a roadway of under-fourteen feet width to be sub-standard. In sub-standard width lanes, a bicyclist can use the entire lane. My experience with motorists is that they will mostly give you enough passing room, but I'm no longer going to take the risks associated with "mostly" and have found that the safety level has increased ten-fold for my riding. It's been a bit more than six months since I've begun this practice and other than educating many law enforcement officers, I've had few incidents. The horn-blowing has been reduced and any horns are given my usual response, a wave of the hand (with all five fingers). Perhaps the journalist will do some research on her own and publish a suitable article. Oh, wait, I'll wake up now. ... maybe I won't have to... Janet just sent me an email asking for permission to print portions of my email to her! Wow! If a reader of the LAT happens across a follow-up, please post! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:25:52 -0700 (PDT) From: LioNiNoiL <lioninoil <at> yahoo.com> To: hpv <at> bikelist.org Subject: Re: [hpv] LAT story on recumbents http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-recumbent16-2008jun16,0,2780 272.story Janet Cromley wrote: >> Nestled in a tandem recumbent bike... >> Technically, it is a trike... Bloody newspaper writers. ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ +Las Vegas, Nevada+ ____________________________________________________________ Save up to 10% - 30% on Visual Basic. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mAsS1WvlsHpLCNeKb5HnN1OSiQ4VkhYRBCGDXn8aBszGWzh/From vgedris <at> gmail.com Tue Jun 17 11:28:05 2008 Return-Path: <vgedris <at> gmail.com> Delivered-To: hpv <at> bikelist.org Received: from monkeyfood.nt.phred.org (unknown [172.16.1.15]) by phred.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BA55F19 for <hpv <at> bikelist.org>; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihpva.org ([72.249.104.239]) by monkeyfood.nt.phred.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:29:15 -0700 Received: by ihpva.org (Postfix) id 6B9D5BF60080; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hpv <at> ihpva.org Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by ihpva.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44575BF6007C for <hpv <at> ihpva.org>; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so2975565ywm.26 for <hpv <at> ihpva.org>; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=mnV8Sc9yYIVtGL2m/j2tszz6A0sFDzbY0AlrGVKwH4M=; b=AvEEmtxQQgT/6JZXkNuboAwyEKB3MNOPFEyLE/0v8tMtrFfgy2WL4X+OvnInnvKlaf u68mM6U9qqgS8lueQNtDJ/9g9zsJQN9CVOXMPItM/9Nskpwo/Yh1yOWgK96RyaBQY+rf NdfxxkRtQTw8SUXLw9wsxvnyQ+LOA8g19p6ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=dX5724cD7sz4Mir0nDBz2TA3KlBVyU2Ki5oQ28giFOpwtDB8NewlpMk81m5dfyrGno tHrahTV9+fVmUd1SCuRGNXPSX5Y3BOkd3rqVtV1C2UpED51KDMw7juAvou8mKd3R+RcD RKJbcpCIo7nyI4GHG72kqj2JZXLAHBcsujoEU= Received: by 10.142.230.11 with SMTP id c11mr3197846wfh.334.1213727276968; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.159.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9858fafd0806171127w789df5b4ra5430a26c33fd969 <at> mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:27:56 -0400 From: "Vic Gedris" <vic <at> gedris.org> Sender: vgedris <at> gmail.com To: RCO <RCO_Mail <at> yahoogroups.com>, hpta <at> conscoop.ottawa.on.ca, hpv <at> ihpva.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 536d1ddde9d9f0e5 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2008 18:29:16.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C5920F0:01C8D0A8] Subject: [hpv] Toronto: Saturday Ride + Festival X-BeenThere: hpv <at> bikelist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Human Powered Vehicles Mailing List <hpv.bikelist.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/hpv>, <mailto:hpv-request <at> bikelist.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://phred.org/pipermail/hpv> List-Post: <mailto:hpv <at> bikelist.org> List-Help: <mailto:hpv-request <at> bikelist.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/hpv>, <mailto:hpv-request <at> bikelist.org?subject=subscribe> Hey everyone, I have finally got around to posting some details about this Saturday's ride, and our attendance at the BIG on Bloor festival. You can find it all here: http://hpv.gedris.org/index.php/BIG_Festival_2008 Basically, we'll meet up at 10:30am at Grange Park, leave for a ride along the lake and Humber River at 11:00, and then gather at the BIG on Bloor festival for about 1:00pm. We're officially registered with a table etc. at the BIG festival. That means we can display bikes, etc...etc.. So please drop by, even if you can't come for the whole ride or stick around for the whole afternoon. Please RSVP to me if you're planning to come, so that we make sure we wait up for you: vic <at> gedris.org Cheers, Vic -- -- Vic Gedris Toronto, Ontario, Canada http://vic.gedris.org/ ------------------------------ This message digest comes to you via the hpv <at> bikelist.org mailing list, sponsored by http://ihpva.org/ Visit http://bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/hpv to manage your subscription. 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