6 Feb 01:59
Re: Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment
Good point! --- On Fri, 2/5/10, HAZEL Margaret E <Margaret.E.Hazel <at> ci.eugene.or.us> wrote: From: HAZEL Margaret E <Margaret.E.Hazel <at> ci.eugene.or.us> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment To: "web4lib <at> webjunction.org" <web4lib <at> webjunction.org> Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 7:05 PM Ha. On the other hand, maybe we should be encouraging some of the lurkers to de-cloak a little more often, to get some new and crazy ideas out for discussion. -Margaret Margaret Hazel Virtual Branch & Innovative Tech Manager Eugene Public Library Eugene, OR 541-682-6015 Margaret.e.Hazel(at)ci.eugene.or.us -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org] On Behalf Of B.G. Sloan Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:57 PM To: web4lib <at> webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment It's actually a good thing that most subscribers are not active posters! If every Web4Lib subscriber contributed just two postings per week, we'd have to wade through maybe 4,000-5,000 postings per week. People would be unsubscribing like crazy.Bernie Sloan --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Gair Helfrich <ghelfrich <at> aclsys.org> wrote: From: Gair Helfrich <ghelfrich <at> aclsys.org> Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment To: "B.G. Sloan" <bgsloan2 <at> yahoo.com>, "web4lib <at> webjunction.org" <web4lib <at> webjunction.org> Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 2:31 PM Bernie, This individual who sits in the wings and does very little posting very much appreciates those who post frequently. I've learned a lot through the generosity of the "mega-posters" who take the time from their day to share their knowledge and answer our questions. So, thank you one and all! Gair __________ Gair Helfrich, MLS Supervising Librarian Information and Technical Services Manager Atlantic County Library 40 Farragut Avenue Mays Landing, NJ 08330 609-625-2776 ext. 6313 Fax: 609-625-8143 ghelfrich <at> acmail.aclink.org -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org] On Behalf Of B.G. Sloan Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:52 PM To: web4lib <at> webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment Bill Drew says: "Please don't let a few complaints from a small number of people change the dynamics on this list." Actually, the dynamics of the list are *created* by the relatively small number of people who post to the list. Here's something I wrote about Web4Lib in a 2006 article in the Journal of Library Administration: "Active posters are what make the list tick, and they provide the list with its personality, for better or for worse. I recently studied almost seven years of posting history (April 1995-January 2002) for the Web4Lib list to determine which people were the most active posters. Over that time frame, nearly 6,500 subscribers posted at least one message to the list (i.e., this does not include subscribers who have never posted to the list). One percent of these subscribers accounted for 25 percent of the messages posted to the list. The top twenty-five posters, representing only one half of one percent of the number of posters, accounted for 22 percent of the total messages sent. Nearly 90 percent of the subscribers who posted at least one message posted ten or fewer messages over the course of those seven years. Nearly 60 percent posted only one message during that time frame. The median number of postings was two, or about one every 3.5 years, and the mean was 6.36, or less than one per year. This data shows that a relatively small number of subscribers account for a significant amount of list traffic, and that the vast majority of subscribers post infrequently, if at all." Bernie Sloan --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Wilfred Drew <DrewW <at> tc3.edu> wrote: From: Wilfred Drew <DrewW <at> tc3.edu> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment To: "web4lib" <web4lib <at> webjunction.org> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:52 AM Please don't let a few complaints from a small number of people change the dynamics on this list. This list does not belong to just a few people. It belongs to the entire subscriber community. ----------------------------------------- Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Strengths: Ideation, Input, Learner, Command, Analytical E-mail: dreww <at> tc3.edu Follow the library: http://twitter.com/TC3Library Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail or document. -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Walt Crawford Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:38 AM To: Andrew Hankinson Cc: web4lib Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment I feel the need to offer two comments: 1. There is no such thing as a weekly digest of Cites & Insights emails. Cites & Insights is a monthly ejournal (sometimes slightly more than monthly), and I *currently* send an announcement of each issue to Web4Lib. It's not at all an aggregation of blog posts. (Andrew may be thinking of Current Cites--but, in fact, that's also monthly and not a "digest" or aggregation of blog posts.) 2. Since there's a dislike for announcements--one I partially share--I'll remove Web4Lib from the monthly announcement list. If you want to be informed of new issues of Cites & Insights, sign up for my blog (Walt at Random, http://walt.lishost.org) or the single-purpose announcement blog (C&I Alerts, http://cical.blogspot.com). I was going to *ask* whether I should remove the Web4Lib announcement, but it's probably the right thing to do. -walt crawford- On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Andrew Hankinson <andrew.hankinson <at> gmail.com > wrote: > Agreed. "Just use the delete key" isn't a real solution. Maybe Gerry could > aggregate his blog posts and send a digest out weekly, similar to the > "Cites > & Insights" e-mails. > > Gerry: would that be an acceptable compromise? > > -Andrew > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Matthew Zimmerman < > Matthew.Zimmerman <at> utsouthwestern.edu> wrote: > > > >From a constructive criticism point of view, I would read your emails or > > blog posts more often Gerry if there wasn't such information overload. > Like > > others, I get your updates each day, sometimes multiple times a day from > at > > least three different sources (this list, my Facebook email, and my gmail > > account which receives updates from Facebook). Sadly I just ignore them > now, > > perhaps to my loss, but when you see so many updates it becomes white > noise. > > > > > > > > Matthew Zimmerman > > Manager > > Digital Services and Technology Planning > > UT Southwestern Medical Center Library > > Tel: 214-648-4873 > > > > matthew.zimmerman <at> utsouthwestern.edu > > www.utsouthwestern.edu/library > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib <at> webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib <at> webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib <at> webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib <at> webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib <at> webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib <at> webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib <at> webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib <at> webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/
Bernie Sloan
--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Gair Helfrich <ghelfrich <at> aclsys.org> wrote:
From: Gair Helfrich <ghelfrich <at> aclsys.org>
Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment
To: "B.G. Sloan" <bgsloan2 <at> yahoo.com>, "web4lib <at> webjunction.org" <web4lib <at> webjunction.org>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 2:31 PM
Bernie,
This individual who sits in the wings and does very little posting very much appreciates those who post
frequently. I've learned a lot through the generosity of the "mega-posters" who take the time from their
day to share their knowledge and answer our questions. So, thank you one and all!
Gair
__________
Gair Helfrich, MLS
Supervising Librarian
Information and Technical Services Manager
Atlantic County Library
40 Farragut Avenue
Mays Landing, NJ 08330
609-625-2776 ext. 6313 Fax: 609-625-8143
ghelfrich <at> acmail.aclink.org
-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces <at> webjunction.org] On Behalf Of B.G. Sloan
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:52 PM
To: web4lib <at> webjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment
Bill Drew says: "Please don't let a few complaints from a small number of people change the dynamics on this list."
Actually, the dynamics of the list are *created* by the relatively small number of people who post to the
list. Here's something I wrote about Web4Lib in a 2006 article in the Journal of Library Administration:
"Active posters are what make the list tick, and they provide the list with its personality, for better or
for worse. I recently studied almost seven years of posting history (April 1995-January 2002) for the
Web4Lib list to determine which people were the most active posters. Over that time frame, nearly 6,500
subscribers posted at least one message to the list (i.e., this does not include subscribers who have
never posted to the list). One percent of these subscribers accounted for 25 percent of the messages
posted to the list. The top twenty-five posters, representing only one half of one percent of the number of
posters, accounted for 22 percent of the total messages sent. Nearly 90 percent of the subscribers who
posted at least one message posted ten or fewer messages over the course of those seven years. Nearly 60
percent posted only one message during that time frame. The median number of postings was two, or about one
every 3.5 years, and the
mean was 6.36, or less than one per year. This data shows that a relatively small number of subscribers
account for a significant amount of list traffic, and that the vast majority of subscribers post
infrequently, if at all."
Bernie Sloan
--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Wilfred Drew <DrewW <at> tc3.edu> wrote:
From: Wilfred Drew <DrewW <at> tc3.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Mobenzi > Mobile-Phone-Based Empowerment
To: "web4lib" <web4lib <at> webjunction.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:52 AM
Please don't let a few complaints from a small number of people change the dynamics on this list. This list
does not belong to just a few people. It belongs to the entire subscriber community.
-----------------------------------------
Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S.
Assistant Professor
Librarian, Systems and Tech Services
Strengths: Ideation, Input, Learner, Command, Analytical
E-mail: dreww <at> tc3.edu
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