Re: ADMIN: turning down our servers

On Monday, September 19, 2011 23:10:43 Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
> (Sigh) seems to be the trend.  Linux Mag has gone all internet and no 
> more paper.  I like old things, like magazines that don't need to be 
> booted up.
> 
> I for one will be sorry to see the SxS list join my old dogs as 
> wonderful memories.
>  From my first tentative fumblings with Caldera OL, SxS has been a club 
> house full of good friends, including Lonnie!
<sniff>
This has been a great group.  I hope it continues.  Indeed, it has always been 
a security blanket, even in recent years where I've had to relinquish the 
proselytizing of Linux to others and focus elsewhere.  This has been one of 
the finest communities I've known, and some of the greatest memories and 
opportunities to meet people and help people.  

I too started this journey from Caldera OpenLinux back before SCO became the 
creature they did, having toasted a perfectly good ThinkPad installation 
trying to stick Redhat on it.  This list (and arguably it's predicessor, the 
caldera-users list) has taught me much about becoming self-sufficient and 
learning on your own, about etiquette and respect, and about giving back... 
and little about the value of terse discourse.  I remember several such 
conversations with people I grew to respect greatly (particularly David Bandel 
and netllama).

I now run mainly Kubuntu (Ubuntu focused on KDE), having run with RH, SuSE, 
CentOS, SCO_UL, and Mandrake.  The many distro CD's actually live in their own 
spindle as I try not to forget the journey.  Linux *has* improved.  There is 
less need for people to potentially damage their career to tout Linux' value.  
And there are many of us who simply use it to better their lives and the jobs 
they do.  I still get a little ribbing from my Mac friends who think it's 
ludicrous that I installed Kubuntu on my Mac (heck, it barely looks any 
different, aside from some widget-placement).  Everyone has their religious 
beliefs.  The Mac folk I take the most ribbing from love Mac because it's 
partially based on BSD (lulz).  But I do digress.

But this group of folk have meant a lot to me over the years.  I don't hardly 
write the list anymore, but I'll stick around just the same.

Thank you Doug, and other admins over the years.  I look forward to staying 
loosely connected for years to come.

Where's Skippy?
Where's Kurt Wall?
Where's ...?

Sincerely,
Matt Carpenter

On Monday, September 19, 2011 23:10:43 Leon A. Goldstein wrote:
> (Sigh) seems to be the trend.  Linux Mag has gone all internet and no 
> more paper.  I like old things, like magazines that don't need to be 
> booted up.
> 
> I for one will be sorry to see the SxS list join my old dogs as 
> wonderful memories.
>  From my first tentative fumblings with Caldera OL, SxS has been a club 
> house full of good friends, including Lonnie!
<sniff>
This has been a great group.  I hope it continues.  Indeed, it has always been 
a security blanket, even in recent years where I've had to relinquish the 
proselytizing of Linux to others and focus elsewhere.  This has been one of 
the finest communities I've known, and some of the greatest memories and 
opportunities to meet people and help people.  

I too started this journey from Caldera OpenLinux back before SCO became the 
creature they did, having toasted a perfectly good ThinkPad installation 
trying to stick Redhat on it.  This list (and arguably it's predicessor, the 
caldera-users list) has taught me much about becoming self-sufficient and 
learning on your own, about etiquette and respect, and about giving back... 
and little about the value of terse discourse.  I remember several such 
conversations with people I grew to respect greatly (particularly David Bandel 
and netllama).

I now run mainly Kubuntu (Ubuntu focused on KDE), having run with RH, SuSE, 
CentOS, SCO_UL, and Mandrake.  The many distro CD's actually live in their own 
spindle as I try not to forget the journey.  Linux *has* improved.  There is 
less need for people to potentially damage their career to tout Linux' value.  
And there are many of us who simply use it to better their lives and the jobs 
they do.  I still get a little ribbing from my Mac friends who think it's 
ludicrous that I installed Kubuntu on my Mac (heck, it barely looks any 
different, aside from some widget-placement).  Everyone has their religious 
beliefs.  The Mac folk I take the most ribbing from love Mac because it's 
partially based on BSD (lulz).  But I do digress.

But this group of folk have meant a lot to me over the years.  I don't hardly 
write the list anymore, but I'll stick around just the same.

Thank you Doug, and other admins over the years.  I look forward to staying 
loosely connected for years to come.

Where's Skippy?
Where's Kurt Wall?
Where's ...?

Sincerely,
Matt Carpenter