Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13

Rich Freeman schrieb:

> -v is not itself a default, so if it controls the quiet output then
> essentially a stock gentoo emerge command will be quiet.  I'd consider
> that just another variance on quiet-by-default.

If you take it like this:
69% of respondents want to see build output when -v is given (52+17).
28% disagree with that.

45% don't want to see build output when -v is not given (28+17). 52%
disagree with that.

Among the people preferring to see build output, making -v control the
default seems to be considered an acceptable compromise. So wouldn't
that be great? Hiding build output by default, while still satisfying
most critics of this idea.

> And no, this shouldn't
> warrant having the elections team run a Condorcent vote (which should
> handle issues like this).

I already stated that I would leave the call to zmedico as lead
developer of portage. Giving him the arguments and the data to make the
decision, but watching whether his reasoning is sound. That means
clearly saying where it is based on fact and where it is based on opinion.
(I wouldn't mind if he made an entirely opinion based decision, as long
as he didn't claim it to be fact-based)

Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn