Re: Plesk 8.1.1 + Owl :)

Solar Designer wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 10:59:32AM +0200, Krzysztof ?niadoch wrote:
> > Currently I'm using cpanel
>
> Was cPanel easy to install on Owl?  Did you run into any issues (and
> solve them)?

Hmm... It's not like that. Currently, we're using CentOS as based 
distribution, that's because of the support.
But having quite a lot of security problems, I'm seriously thinking about 
switching to OWL with Plesk/cPanel. I got to recalculate many things so thi 
won't be an easy decision :/ Thanks to the notes of Galaxy now I can see how 
the things needs to be done to get Plesk working - that's really important.

>
> > Setting up Plesk on OWL is awesome solution, especially when it comes to
> > security ...
>
> Actually, I wouldn't call Plesk (or cPanel for that matter) installed on
> any OS reasonably secure for my own use.  Sure, you do get some
> advantages of Owl that other Linux distributions don't offer (e.g., tcb
> and stronger password hashes), but other than that Plesk (or cPanel)
> pretty much kills the security of any underlying Linux distribution.
>

The kernel security by OWL patch is also the improvement that I'm counting on.
Especially, when we had a critical security issues thanks to the 2.6.x 
kernels :/
You're absolutely right writting about killing security by Plesk/cPanel :/

> Actually, posting to owl-users is quite close to placing text marked
> "experimental" on the web since there are web-based archives of this
> list.  A web URL for such posting could then be linked to.  And its
> status as just a mailing list posting would indicate that the text is
> experimental.  The message should appear here:
> ...

Hmm... I've an idea :) Solar, what do you thing about creating something 
like 'how to' link at the http://openwall.com/Owl ?
Owl-users could post here, the ready step by step solutions, the rest of list 
could make/annonce/apply :) "patches" to the text, and after that, the 
solution could finally go at the web 

The people who're visiting Openwall's website could see that the distribution 
has ready to use solutions so they don't need to gooooogle to get things 
done :) That's really helpful, especially for new users 

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