3 Jul 2007 10:23
Re: Suugestion for forwarding spam reports
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:48 -0400 Gerard <gerard@...> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:14:51 -0000, "Peter Kelly" <epicurus@...> wrote: > > I often repond to spam by forwarding them onto the originating > > server. To do this you need to copy/paste the full headers into the > > body of the new email. > > > > It would be a good idea to offer the option of adding the original > > headers already pasted into the body of the forwarding email being > > composed. It would make reporting spam quicker. Maybe even a > > suggestion for the to header for a forwarding address (eg > > abuse@...). > > > > For forwarding by pressing the forward arrow there are already the > > options of > > > > Forward > > Redirect > > Forward as attachment > > > > Anew option would add > > > > Forward with original headers > > > Forwarding the message as an attachment , I assume you are referring > to RFC-822 MIME encoded attachments, already includes the headers, etc. > of the original message. I do not quite comprehend why you would want > to include the original message's headers as part of the body text of > a new message as well as forwarding the original message as an > attachment. That would appear to be redundancy. What purpose does it > serve? I know of no SPAM reporting agency that requires that format. > > I am somewhat concerned with the statement, "forwarding them onto the originating > server" in your post. If you are attempting to send these allegedly > SPAM messages back to what you assume to be the originating source, > you are probably guilty of creating what is known as 'backscatter'. > This sort of behavior will get you blacklisted eventually. The proper > method is to us a combination of RSBL and other internal filters if > you are running your own MTA, or else simply discard the messages > entirely if not. I can virtually guarantee that you aren't running an > MTA. You can forward them as an attachment to organizations such as > 'SpamCop'; however, for the most part that simply serves as a rather > useless finger exercise as well as a waste of bandwidth. > > > -- > Gerard Hi Gerard I have just tried clicked "Forward As Attachment" just to view the headers of this original email. I do not see them. When opening the attachment in the compose window there are no headers. When looking at the headers of the actual composed message there are only the headers of pertaining to it. I have saved and attached the file to this reply before discarding the forward composed test email. As to the value of reporting spam I received a few spam emails a few months after I changed my email address, partly to escape spam, and started sending spam reports religiously. The spam soon stopped completely. I believe there was only one spammer. I believe he found my scrambled email address from a usenet posting and went to the trouble of unscrambling it. I believe action was taken before he had the oppurtunity to onsell my email address to other spammers. I received no more spam. Now, only a week ago I started receiving spam although not directly to my address, but redirected through an address assigned by an organisation I am connected with, and from there it automatically redirected to me. To date my email address is relatively clean and it is worth fighting to keep it that way This below is the ENTIRE contents of the forward attachment file example. No headers at in it. _____________________________________________________________________ On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:48 -0400 Gerard <gerard@...> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:14:51 -0000, "Peter Kelly" <epicurus@...> wrote: > > I often repond to spam by forwarding them onto the originating > > server. To do this you need to copy/paste the full headers into the > > body of the new email. > > > > It would be a good idea to offer the option of adding the original > > headers already pasted into the body of the forwarding email being > > composed. It would make reporting spam quicker. Maybe even a > > suggestion for the to header for a forwarding address (eg > > abuse@...). > > > > For forwarding by pressing the forward arrow there are already the > > options of > > > > Forward > > Redirect > > Forward as attachment > > > > Anew option would add > > > > Forward with original headers > > > Forwarding the message as an attachment , I assume you are referring > to RFC-822 MIME encoded attachments, already includes the headers, etc. > of the original message. I do not quite comprehend why you would want > to include the original message's headers as part of the body text of > a new message as well as forwarding the original message as an > attachment. That would appear to be redundancy. What purpose does it > serve? I know of no SPAM reporting agency that requires that format. > > I am somewhat concerned with the statement, "forwarding them onto the originating > server" in your post. If you are attempting to send these allegedly > SPAM messages back to what you assume to be the originating source, > you are probably guilty of creating what is known as 'backscatter'. > This sort of behavior will get you blacklisted eventually. The proper > method is to us a combination of RSBL and other internal filters if > you are running your own MTA, or else simply discard the messages > entirely if not. I can virtually guarantee that you aren't running an > MTA. You can forward them as an attachment to organizations such as > 'SpamCop'; however, for the most part that simply serves as a rather > useless finger exercise as well as a waste of bandwidth. > > > -- > Gerard Hi Gerard I have just tried clicked "Forward As Attachment" just to view the headers of this original email. I do not see them. When opening the attachment in the compose window there are no headers. When looking at the headers of the actual composed message there are only the headers of pertaining to it. I have saved and attached the file to this reply before discarding the forward composed test email. As to the value of reporting spam I received a few spam emails a few months after I changed my email address, partly to escape spam, and stated sending spam reports religiously. The spam stopped. I believe there was only one spammer. I believe he found my scrabbled email address from a usenet posting and went to the trouble of unscambling it. I believe action was taken before he had the oppurtunity to onsell my email address to other spammers. Now, only a week ago I started receiving spam although not directly to this address, but redirected through an address assigned by an organisation I am connected from where it is automatically redirected. 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