John Kirkwood | 18 Jul 17:17

SPF and Google Groups (sending on behalf of)

Dear all at SPF-help,

Conundrum:

user <at> un.org posts a message to the email list server
geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.
Google Groups then sends a group email, marked From: user <at> un.org, but sent
using a Google mailserver.
The SPF record at un.org does not designate Google as a permitted sender.
My ISP blocks the email (dotster.com / mail3.dotsterhost.com - quite strict
on RFC and SPF imperfections, for example will <fail> on an invalid SPF
record).

 Received-SPF: pass (googlegroups.com designates 209.85.146.244 as a trusted
SMTP server)
 Received-SPF: fail (un.org does not designate 209.85.146.244 as a permitted
sender)

Any ideas? (Full headers of sent mail below - with sender's name changed -
email retrieved from a Death2Spam mail relay server).

Best regards,
John Kirkwood

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: User <user <at> un.org>
To: Geneva Web Group <geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com>
Subject: Web development job - paid this time...
 Return-Path: <grbounce-
kig5qauaaaaznpbi2wszj0atqg4i62pa=jkirkwood=kclinfo.com <at> googlegroups.com>

 Received-SPF: pass (googlegroups.com designates 209.85.146.244 as a trusted
SMTP server)
 Received-SPF: fail (un.org does not designate 209.85.146.244 as a permitted
sender)

 Received: from wa-out-0708.google.com (wa-out-0708.google.com
[209.85.146.244]) by death2spam.net (Death2Spam SMTP Sentinel Server v3.3.5)
for <jkirkwood <at> kclinfo.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:50:18 -0500
 Received: by wa-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id m33so826399waf.24 for
<jkirkwood <at> kclinfo.com>; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com;
s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-
apparently-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer- encoding:received:
date
:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message- id:subject:from:to
:x-google-approved:reply-to:sender:precedence:x- google-loop
:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list- unsubscribe :x-beenthere;
bh=V+/a623tWuF2XIPEIRA0978cv+ROdjcp8NZzWIW/1EY=;
b=ETWkuEqj0k3b49WJo+ORSucqBSGyUWUV2DKGmX6Tt5D2B/3NxbiKyxO5 Xzh/NMA/vb
UNG0Nnm5hq5aN3UNLwAALg8GmHEwgLRB2hcc63vGdTMzVnOCWpVIaXXw6Y os9SWjPX0v
/RzcMIfBWQyKAzJjRA8Qfvmg+21Z79oa+uNhE=
 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:mime-version:content-type
:content-transfer-encoding:date:x-ip:user-agent:x- http-useragent
:message-id:subject:from:to:x-google- approved:reply-to:sender
:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list- id:list-post:list-help
:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere;
b=WiR3CqLpCp5ksBz6LiqhxPE+CUtNf9cMSdAPqhgNFfI6SCml5NKLcr1K 5SGFrCzBmW
obJLtCB6ZfFWtVLbBIToXitobdBIQTFZvplOiQuK/9OXGnvjpTB4258QoS 89Lx6pn6vL
Ih6aEv0yBz2Poo3ZfSXnCNiXbywmFC38TeTCA=
 Received: by 10.140.202.12 with SMTP id z12mr52147rvf.21. 1216374587656;
Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:49:47 -0700 (PDT)
 Received: by 10.106.239.31 with SMTP id m31gr799prh.0; Fri, 18 Jul 2008
02:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
 X-Sender: user <at> un.org
 X-Apparently-To: geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 Received: by 10.151.110.9 with SMTP id n9mr1530ybm.11.1216374561308; Fri,
18 Jul 2008 02:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
 X-IP: 217.169.133.249
 User-Agent: G2/1.0
 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .
NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.
30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
 Message-ID: <cbaf6991-546a-4304-9dc9-dff97b042b5d <at> d19g2000prm.
googlegroups.com>
 X-Google-Approved: user <at> un.org via email at 2008-07-18 09:49:36
 Reply-To: geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com
 Sender: geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com
 Precedence: bulk
 X-Google-Loop: groups
 Mailing-List: list geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com; contact
geneva-web-group+owner <at> googlegroups.com
 List-Id: <geneva-web-group.googlegroups.com>
 List-Post: <mailto:geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com>
 List-Help: <mailto:geneva-web-group+help <at> googlegroups.com>
 List-Unsubscribe:
<http://googlegroups.com/group/geneva-web-group/subscribe>,
<mailto:geneva-web-group+unsubscribe <at> googlegroups. com>
 X-BeenThere: geneva-web-group <at> googlegroups.com
 X-Spam-SMTP-Helo: wa-out-0708.google.com
 X-Spam-SMTP-From: grbounce-
kig5qauaaaaznpbi2wszj0atqg4i62pa=jkirkwood=kclinfo.com <at> googlegroups.com
 X-Spam-SMTP-Rcpt: jkirkwood <at> kclinfo.com
 X-Virus-Scanned: D2S-AV Samurai at death2spam.net; probability=0.3106
[15ms]
 X-Spam-Classification: good
 X-Spam-Probability: 0.3099 (blacklist=0.3468 envelope=0.3504
contents=0.2740)
 X-Spam-Scanned: Death2Spam v3.3.5 at death2spam.net [1057ms]
 X-Spam-File: heatherbr <at> kclinfo.com/good/d6438cf8


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