RE: [Thinstation-general] USB storage devices

Cool Bananas.

But it feels like thinstation is 'almost there' with usb storage.

I will explain:

On my 'test client' when I bootup Thinstation 2.0b3 without my USB
memory stick plugged in, the directory "/dev/scsi/" is present with no
files or directories underneath it.
When I plug the USB memory stick in (which I know to work with XP +SP1,
Win2k +SP4, Mandrake 9.2 & Knoppix 3.3 (all tested today...)) 
The "/dev/scsi" changes. It changes to the following:
"/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0"
But there is still no "/dev/sda1" which is referred to within
"/etc/init.d/filesystem_local" 

I was wondering, how would we go trying to mount /mnt/usbstick to
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 Instead of /dev/sda1?

We could test this my mounting /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0
manually to /mnt/usbstick, manually using telnet. I have tried but my
'mount' command isn't working as I think the syntax I am using is wrong.

But I will keep trying with that.  

Robbo

-----Original Message-----
From: Miles Roper [mailto:mroper@...] 
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 15:21
To: Robbo Aylett; Thinstation-Developer (E-mail)
Cc: Paul Whittaker (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] USB storage devices

excellent work robbo,  this is the kind of feedback I've needed.

keep this on the mailing list though as this is where I get stuck,

ok, I'll take that back, you just posted :o)

so...anyone got a clue as to whats missing?

the modules.conf has

add above usb-hid usb-ohci usb-uhci keybdev mousedev add below
usb-storage sd_mod vfat add above usb-printer usb-ohci usb-uhci add
above cdrom ide-cd

I've moved to modprobe (not in busybox) which tidied up some module
support stuff that thinstation has a while ago in the 2.0 series.  So,
was looking back at what Paul said a while back...

I can help you out somewhat with the kernel module aspects, but you've
made things a bit difficult for yourself with the approach that
Thinstation takes to this. Under DIET-PC, all I need to do is add a
couple couple of lines to modules.conf (eg. "pre-install usb-storage
modprobe usb-uhci" and "probeall scsi_hostadapter usb-storage" ) and
then attempt to access /dev/sda1 or whatever, and devfsd and the kernel
module loader take care of everything.

i've also just enabled busybox to have devfs support, not sure if that
is needed or not.

feedback please....

-----Original Message-----
From: Robbo Aylett [mailto:robbo.aylett@...]
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 04:26 p.m.
To: Miles Roper
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] USB storage devices

Hey Miles.

I have done what you've asked...

I have changed my thinstation.conf.buildtime "storage_path" parameter.

I did a lsmod whilst in debug mode. Here is the output:
(FYI the command issued was: "lsmod > /mnt/floppy/lsmod-output.txt")

Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
nls_iso8859-1           2812   1  (autoclean)
nls_cp437               4348   1  (autoclean)
rtc                     6140   0 
smbfs                  32048   0  (unused)
supermount             63040   3 
isofs                  16940   0 
ide-cd                 28708   0 
cdrom                  29856   0  [ide-cd]
floppy                 47068   2 
usb-storage            22808   0  (unused)
sd_mod                 10924   0  (unused)
vfat                    9132   1 
fat                    29560   0  [vfat]
scsi_mod               84168   2  [usb-storage sd_mod]
usb-uhci               20844   0  (unused)
keybdev                 1664   0  (unused)
mousedev                3704   0  (unused)
usb-hid                21476   0  (unused)
usbcore                55552   0  [usb-storage usb-uhci usb-hid]
input                   3296   0  [keybdev mousedev usb-hid]
i810_audio             22232   0 
ac97_codec             11980   0  [i810_audio]
soundcore               3460   2  [i810_audio]
eepro100               18388   1 
mii                     2224   0  [eepro100]
agpgart                28756   0  (unused)

executing "modprobe usb-storage" produced no errors. Nor did it produce
any output.

Also, there are references everywhere (as I'd expect) to /dev/sda1.  But
there is no /dev/sda1 Is this a potential issue?  This is what the /dev
directory looks like on my
build:
(FYI the command issued was: "ls -a > /mnt/floppy/devdir-output.txt") .
..
.devfsd
agpgart
audio
cdroms
console
cpu
cua
discs
dsp
fb
floppy
full
ide
initrd
input
kmem
log
mem
midi
misc
mixer
netlink
null
port
psaux
ptmx
pts
pty
random
rd
root
scsi
sequencer
shm
sound
tts
tty
tty0
tty1
tty2
tty3
tty4
tty5
tty6
tty7
ttyS0
ttyS1
ttyS2
ttyS3
urandom
usb
vc
vcc
zero

I have also tried booting Thinstation with a USB stick in the usb port,
but this did not change anything.

Robbo

From: Miles Roper [mailto:mroper@...]
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 10:41
To: Robbo Aylett; thinstation-general@...
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] USB storage devices

Hi Robbo,

Yes, ongoing saga with USB.  It is meant to be supported, but doesn't
seem
to work.  I've followed all the instructions people have sent me
regarding
it, but it still doesn't work on the USB device I've tried.  I want to
borrow another device so I can test things again.  So it is comming
soon.....  If you want to test it you can...

check out

thinstation/packages/base/etc/init.d/filesystem_local

this will mount the usb device if it exists..you need to define these
settings in thinstation.conf.buildtime

STORAGE_PATH=/mnt/usbstick

the problem is it doesn't seem to be finding the device at

/dev/sda1

which means the modules I'm loading arn't working correctly.

to check this out...

enable the debug package

and after pc has booted do a 

lsmod

you should have

scsi_mod
sd_mod
usb-storage
usb-uchi or udb-ohci

if you want send me the output of that command

also, if they arn't loaded, try loading them manually by

modprobe usb-storage

and tell me any errors that occur.

Cheers

Miles
-----Original Message-----
From: Robbo Aylett [mailto:robbo.aylett@...]
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 11:18 a.m.
To: thinstation-general@...
Subject: [Thinstation-general] USB storage devices

Hello again to Mike, Miles, Paolo and Contributers.

I apologise for asking this question, as I never want to appear to be
impatient. But here goes....

Around about July last year, Miles and Mike were discussing in
"thinstation-general"  the topic of USB (mass) storage.

Here (at the college), a lot of staff and students are using "USB memory
keys" instead of floppies to transport files to and from home.  

I was wondering as to whether the feature is present in 2.0b3 (great job
by
the way), or is it *coming soon" or is there away I can impliment it now
with some configuration tweaking within the 2.0b3 release???

I noticed there wasn't a share reference to any usb device within
"/packages/samba-base/lib/smb.conf.tpl" nor any reference within
/etc/fstab
on my test client.  I also had a look around within /dev/ but didn't
have
much luck.

Any ideas?

Yours Sincerely,
Robbo Aylett
Level 3 Network Officer.
ICT Services,
Hobart College
Olinda Grove Mt. Nelson.
Tasmania Australia. 7007.
http://www.hobart.tased.edu.au
(03) 6220 3457
robbo.aylett@...
"All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a
hammer." --IBM maintenance manual, 1975 

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