Re: LinuxMCE Website

I ordered one of those USB dongles....  for $5 its not a bad thing to  
have around.

I may attempt it without.....  we'll see how my life goes over the  
next few weeks :)

On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Seth Jerome wrote:

> If you have a laptop or other pc handy, with internet, you can see  
> exactly
> what to do for each section of the setup screen, with just these 2  
> wiki
> pages:
> http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/House_Setup_Wizard
> http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Media_Player_Wizard
>
> These pretty well tell you what is being done each step of the way,  
> save
> you the cost of asound device.
>
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>> It should. I had a no-name usb dongle that I got at a local  
>> alliance for
>> one of my older md's that the onboard sound failed. It uses the c- 
>> maedia
>> chip, this one does not say what chip it uses, but if you can find  
>> the
>> Trendnet version  of it, that uses the c-media chipset. But again,  
>> if you
>> can get through the name and room parts, you can configure the rest  
>> of the
>> sytem from a web browser, or terminal session.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Any idea on whether those cheap USB sound devices would work?
>>>
>>> Like This:
>>> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=205879993&listingid=12835182&dcaid=17902
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Seth Jerome wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm. Well, you can bypass Sarah, by at least getting through the  
>>>> enter
>>>> your name piece, and th room creation piece. Just enter your user
>>>> name,
>>>> which by default creates a password the same as the user name.
>>>> Assign at
>>>> least 1 room, for the core to reside in. Then skip through all the
>>>> rest of
>>>> the prompts. Then using the webadmin, and mythtv-setup run from an
>>>> ssh -X
>>>> session, to configure your cards. After the room and user name are
>>>> complete, the plug-n-play engine will be active, so it will  
>>>> prompt you
>>>> with what to do questions about all your drives. The only issue you
>>>> will
>>>> have is the channel change script is built by sarah for any STB's
>>>> you may
>>>> have. This is easy enouogh to create yourself using this wiki  
>>>> entry:
>>>> http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/TuneToChannel.sh
>>>>
>>>> So what you want to do is possible, just takes extra steps.
>>>> Unfortunately
>>>> there is no other way currently. But again, I have the screens
>>>> memorized,
>>>> from so many past installs, so I did not need sound :)
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck, I can help if needed.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The problem is I have no sound.... and no real way to get  
>>>>> sound.  I
>>>>> am
>>>>> using a Tyan S2882 dual opteron mainboard and the sound cards  
>>>>> that I
>>>>> have will not work in the PCI slots on that board.  I can't get
>>>>> through sarah's questions because I can't hear her and the  
>>>>> installer
>>>>> doesn't take this into account (ie. there is NO text based  
>>>>> prompts).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Seth Jerome wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I installed from the dvd, 710rc2, and I had a old ati card, and
>>>>>> onboard
>>>>>> sound. As a result, during the AV Wizard setup screens, I said  
>>>>>> no to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sound card choice, and chose vga - 640x480 for the video. After
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> through Sarah's questions about pvr cards, drives, and etc, the
>>>>>> lmce_launch_manager script fires off. As I chose the lowest UI,
>>>>>> Orbiter
>>>>>> generation took less than a minute. After that was finished, you
>>>>>> will see
>>>>>> on the main screen of lmce_launch_manager, that there is a  
>>>>>> panel in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> left of the window, that shows autostart core, and autostart  
>>>>>> media
>>>>>> station, i removed the check from autostart media station,  
>>>>>> clicked
>>>>>> save
>>>>>> settings, and rebooted. From then on all you see is the launch
>>>>>> manager
>>>>>> screen. So the media services do not load. If you wish to go  
>>>>>> truely
>>>>>> headless, after this is done you follow this wiki entry
>>>>>> http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Clean_Core
>>>>>> This will give you control over how the system boots by using
>>>>>> runlevels,
>>>>>> and appropriate grub entries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is how my 710 beta3 core was set up, and it worked well.  
>>>>>> Same
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> stands for 710rc2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my current core is running on a dual p3 1GHz set up, with 1.5G of
>>>>>> ram, and
>>>>>> the internal network card is gigabit, on a gigabit switch. It  
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> old hp
>>>>>> server/workstation. However, I have ordered a new dual core  
>>>>>> board/
>>>>>> chip,
>>>>>> with 2g of ram and onboard nvidia 7050 graphics, so as soon as it
>>>>>> arrives,
>>>>>> I will be relocating my disk drives, dvd drives, and tuner cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really like the integration of LMCE.  I want to add some  
>>>>>>> security
>>>>>>> cameras at my house and was looking at Zoneminder for that but I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> it would be really great if I could have one box that just  
>>>>>>> does it
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> and controlling it from one place is easy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The biggest reason why I am apprehensive is I know how great I
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>> MythBuntu was at 8.04 and then I watched the entire thing blow  
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> 8.10 came out and I'm really scared that when the next version  
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> LMCE
>>>>>>> comes out it would be affected in the same way that MythBuntu  
>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing I could ask you now....  how did you get things set up
>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>> core only?  I started installing LMCE and couldn't get very far
>>>>>>> because the system doesn't have a sound card and, well,
>>>>>>> everything is
>>>>>>> audio/video step by step setup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Seth Jerome wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I very seldom ever do anything to my LMCE core over ssh,
>>>>>>>> occasionally I
>>>>>>>> look at a log that is not available to view, or tail in the
>>>>>>>> webadmin, but
>>>>>>>> as far as using the network, that is how the whole thing works.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> machine with any drives in it is the core, which I have down  
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> room in
>>>>>>>> my basement. It runs headless as a core only, because I have
>>>>>>>> disabled the
>>>>>>>> auto starting of the media station on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But to do any upgrades, it hits all the boxes at once, it  
>>>>>>>> upgrades
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> core, then upgrades the diskless images for all of the media
>>>>>>>> directors,
>>>>>>>> then automatically reboots them, to apply changes, or gives you
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> options to schedule it or do it manually.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But that being said, if all you really want is a pvr and video
>>>>>>>> viewer,
>>>>>>>> then one of the myth distros will work. I have had great  
>>>>>>>> success
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> mythbuntu 8.04, as a frontend accessing the core's mythbackend
>>>>>>>> server and
>>>>>>>> mysql server. But YMMV. I do offer my help if you want to give
>>>>>>>> it a
>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>>>> And as of this  morning, the wiki is back on-line. If you  
>>>>>>>> wish to
>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>> some current configs and howtos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Bob Igo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it has a very stable, established upgrade path,  
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> that you can do over the network.  The new architecture  
>>>>>>>>>> (not yet
>>>>>>>>>> released) will support network upgrades.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doing stuff over the network is key.  There is nothing better
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> being able to remotely SSH in to a machine and tell it to  
>>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> self.  My backend server is in my crawlspace and I don't  
>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> to go down there and work on doing an upgrade that should be
>>>>>>>>> relatively simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and MythBuntu has more "out of the box" features set up
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Interesting.  Can you provide a list?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The last time I did a MythBuntu install, I noticed how pretty
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> installer was, but it kept asking me things it should have  
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> determine on its own.  I also had to do a lot more MythTV
>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>>>>> than I should have.  In KnoppMyth, you answer a few essential
>>>>>>>>>> questions,
>>>>>>>>>> and you're running MythTV, tweaked for your hardware, in 17
>>>>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the time you put in the CD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could care less about the pretty installer.  I had  
>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> unneeded questions asked of me....  I told it what role I  
>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> machine to be, what remote control I had, and that was  
>>>>>>>>> basically
>>>>>>>>> it....  it just worked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I dealt with KnoppMyth it was an issue getting my IR  
>>>>>>>>> blaster
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> work....  I also had to manually configure (using config  
>>>>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> remote control.  Last I knew things like MythWeb and various
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> Myth "plugins" needed to be installed somewhat manually.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Above all....  this is the biggest one.  KnoppMyth has always
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> focused on "single box" systems.  I know that the CD can boot
>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>> live CD and run as a front end but nothing has ever been
>>>>>>>>> optimized
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> this.  In MythBuntu you tell the installer that you want the
>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>> to be a backend, frontend, or both and it gets things all  
>>>>>>>>> set up
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> you.  All you need to give it is the mysql password (which the
>>>>>>>>> backend
>>>>>>>>> even exports into a file for you) and the IP address.  You can
>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>> backend server and 2 front end servers set up and running very
>>>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>>>> -- basically just booting the CD and running the installer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, I will note that right now I am having issues with my IR
>>>>>>>>> blaster
>>>>>>>>> in MythBuntu but this isn't a MythBuntu problem but, rather,  
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> upstream issue.  I've actually talked to many people that have
>>>>>>>>> multimedia devices (most notably webcams, tuners, etc) that  
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> want to work and the worst part about this is the Ubuntu  
>>>>>>>>> forums
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> connect you with smug people that think if your hardware is  
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> 3 years old you shouldn't be using it so no solutions ever  
>>>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> play out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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