15 Aug 2008 08:56
Re: fully supporting static lining in NetBSD (ar "zero" flag)
der Mouse <mouse <at> Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
2008-08-15 06:56:39 GMT
2008-08-15 06:56:39 GMT
> [M]y assertion that modern systems "require in some way the use of > runtime dynamic link/loading of code" is based on what I have > observed of user expectations ... I don't think that's quite fair. Users don't expect dynamic linking. They expect certain capabilities, capabilities which NetBSD currently chooses to implement with dynamic linking. Much of gwoods's point (at least as I see it) is that these are not at all the same thing. > certainly not all users (since you are obviously so biased against > the notion of dynamic extensibility). I don't think that's fair. I don't see gwoods arguing for doing away with the ability to link dynamically, merely arguing against compelling its use. I don't see him biased against dynamic linking, just biased against having no choice but dynamic linking. > Well, it's my opinion that an OS that does not provide such a feature > is antiquated. So what? Once again, nobody here is arguing for doing away with dynamic linking. Only for doing away with (or, rather, not bringing in) _requiring_ dynamic linking. >> Indeed as a contributor and user of NetBSD I'm fully willing and >> able to help as much as I can to maintain the ability of NetBSD to >> make full use of all its modern features when it is built as a >> static-only binary distribution. > I can't really say that I've seen you contribute code in this area > thus far... What do you honestly think would have happened if he'd tried? (I would expect he'd get a "we're not interested" of some form. You seem to think, presumably accurately, that NetBSD does not consider it a bug that (say) PAM doesn't work when linked -static, making it unlikely a fix for it would be accepted.) /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse <at> rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
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