2 Apr 2001 06:12
ped xings and ROW
De Clarke (de@...) wrote: > Ed Beighe (ebeighe@...) wrote: > > > > > Pedestrians have a right, in CA, to cross the street at any > > > point including the middle of the block, and they have the right of way. > > > > Really???!!! This just can't be correct -- the right of way part I mean, it > > would be chaos(?) > > City of Walnut Creek official traffic safety info online: http://www.ci.walnut-creek.ca.us/crosswalks.html precis: it is illegal for a ped to cross the street other than at an intersection only in business districts. elsewhere peds can cross the street anywhere. right of way is by a "who was here first" rule: a pedestrian is not supposed to step out in front of a vehicle "close enough to present a hazard," but a driver is supposed to yield to any ped already crossing the street. I am surprised to find that in the Walnut Creek document, this ROW rule seems to be applied to marked crosswalks... given the aggressive flow of traffic at many of our intersections, a ped who waited until there was no car closely approaching would wait a heckuva long timeQuote of the day: "Studies have shown that the percentage of pedestrian accidents increases at locations where there are marked crosswalks. Marked crosswalks seem to give pedestrians a false sense of security. Although pedestrians may have the right-of-way, a painted line will not stop a vehicle." Hmmm, translate that into car-speak: Studies have shown that the percentage of vehicle accidents increases where traffic moves in two directions on one roadbed. A yellow stripe down the road centre seems to give drivers a false sense of security....
CVC (1999, I don't think it's changed much) CALIFORNIA CODES VEHICLE CODE SECTION 21950-21969 21950. (a) The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter. (b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. No pedestrian shall unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a marked or unmarked crosswalk. (c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection. is that amazing doubletalk, or what? "no pedestrian shall unnecessarily stop or delay traffic"... notice who's being adjured to serve whose convenience
drivers are only adjured to take care for the *safety* of peds, not asked to refrain from delaying or stopping peds. 21952. The driver of any motor vehicle, prior to driving over or upon any sidewalk, shall yield the right-of-way to any pedestrian approaching thereon. driving upon a sidewalk? huh? I thought driving on a sidewalk was just plain illegal, period, end of story. 21953. Whenever any pedestrian crosses a roadway other than by means of a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing, if a pedestrian tunnel or overhead crossing serves the place where the pedestrian is crossing the roadway, such pedestrian shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles on the highway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard. This section shall not be construed to mean that a marked crosswalk, with or without a signal device, cannot be installed where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead crossing exists. so... if there is a pedestrian detour (tunnel or bridge) then you can ignore it and cross the road (probably by a shorter path), but you lose your ROW? 21954. (a) Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard. (b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve the driver of a vehicle from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway. here's where I was wrong in my earlier post. the pedestrian who crosses other than at an intersection does not have ROW. and I disagree with this rule. this rule is the one that means kids have no right to play in the street outside their homes... I'd rather see the cars yield ROW to the kids, myself. 21955. Between adjacent intersections controlled by traffic control signal devices or by police officers, pedestrians shall not cross the roadway at any place except in a crosswalk. this is a real nuisance for peds in carcentric shopping areas where blocks are very long and signalized -- you can be in for a long rectangular walk just to cross over to the shops directly opposite. 21966. No pedestrian shall proceed along a bicycle path or lane where there is an adjacent adequate pedestrian facility. (sigh) I wish this were more observed, especially at dusk... Peds are my allies politically speaking, but I dislike coming upon them suddenly in the bike lane... and mixed-use paths are imho just awful. anyway, I was wrong, wrong, wrong
CA peds can cross mid block only in non-business zones, and virtual crosswalks exist at intersections only. something I am surprised not to see here (maybe it's in another section?) is a rule about a crosswalk with people on it. I thought there was a law that MV traffic had to stay out of the crosswalk as long as anyone was walking in the striped area, i.e. wait for the crosswalk to clear. I'll keep looking (or ask an expert). while trolling for CA law, I ran across this document relevant to bike lanes, cyclists' road rights, etc. http://www.cvcbike.org/club/bikelaw.html de ............................................................................. :De Clarke, Software Engineer UCO/Lick Observatory, UCSC: :Mail: de@... | : :Web: www.ucolick.org | Don't Fear the Penguins :
Quote of the day:
"Studies have shown that the percentage of pedestrian accidents increases
at locations where there are marked crosswalks. Marked crosswalks
seem to give pedestrians a false sense of security. Although pedestrians
may have the right-of-way, a painted line will not stop a vehicle."
Hmmm, translate that into car-speak: Studies have shown that the
percentage of vehicle accidents increases where traffic moves in
two directions on one roadbed. A yellow stripe down the road centre
seems to give drivers a false sense of security....
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