1 May 2012 04:50
Re: Second (and higher)-order methods?
Paul Kislanko <jpkislanko <at> bellsouth.net>
2012-05-01 02:50:46 GMT
2012-05-01 02:50:46 GMT
I think you misunderstood. If I have to rank the 31 baskin-robbins flavors 1 to 31, it is difficult. I'd get tired of the exercise after about the 5th choice and whatever you infer from my 6th-31st choice is based upon unreliable data. If you ask me successively whether I like flavor A better than flavor B for all 465 pairs it is easy for me to pick one or the other. All I'm suggesting is that if you ask me to rank them 1-31 and then try and infer from that how I WOULD HAVE put 1's and 0's into a pairwise matrix had I made pairwise-choices you'll probably get it wrong because I didn't construct the 1-31 list that way. If you asked me the 465 separate questions, you wouldn't have to infer anything. -----Original Message----- From: election-methods-bounces <at> lists.electorama.com [mailto:election-methods-bounces <at> lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of robert bristow-johnson Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:57 PM To: election-methods <at> lists.electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Second (and higher)-order methods? On 4/30/12 5:11 PM, Paul Kislanko wrote: > > I always thought the "Condorcet is like a round-robin athletic > tournament" analogy was weak, because individual voters don't get to > go through the round-robin and make their pairwise preferences > explicit. (As a voter, I'd find a "better/worse" pairwise choice for > all pairs easier than filling out a ranked ballot, ... > Paul, I find it difficult to understand how you, as an individual, can make a set of explicit pair preferences without it being equivalent to a ranked ballot. an individual is not an entire electorate. it's not multiple personality disorder if it's multiple persons. an entire electorate can create a condorcet cycle but i just don't understand how a single voter can. if you like A better than B and B better than C, you like A better than C, no? then i can't see the issue of deriving pairwise preference from ranking or the inverse. it shouldn't matter. or should we allow for cyclical preferences in a single ballot? -- -- r b-j rbj <at> audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info