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From: =?UTF-8?Q?Tr=E1=BA=A7n_V=C4=A9nh_T=C3=A2n?= <vinhtantran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w <at> public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Wikivi-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1
Newsgroups: gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.vietnamese
Date: Thursday 5th June 2008 09:51:15 UTC (over 8 years ago)
Thật tuyệt, cảm ơn Minh,

Tôi sẽ tải nó về máy và cho feedback,

Cheers,

2008/6/5 <[email protected]>:

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>   1. Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details (Minh Nguyen)
>   2. Fwd: About the CheckUser position ( Tr?n V?nh T?n )
>   3. Fwd: About the CheckUser position ( Tr?n V?nh T?n )
>   4. Ki?m tra ch?nh t? ti?ng Vi?t trong Firefox (Minh Nguyen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:50:18 -0800
> From: Minh Nguyen 
> Subject: Re: [Wikivi-l] Returned mail: see transcript for details
> To: Wikipedia tieng Viet <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Xin d? b?t c? l? do n?o, ??ng m? l?n t?p tin .zip ???c g?n v?o nh?ng th?
> ?i?n t? m? v?a ???c g?i cho danh s?ch th? n?y. ??y l? nh?ng th? ?i?n t?
> ch?a virus!
>
> Xin du bat cu ly do nao, ddung mo len tap tin .zip dduoc gan vao nhung
> thu ddien tu ma vua dduoc gui cho danh sach thu nay. Dday la nhung thu
> dien tu chua virus!
>
> Please do not, under any circumstances, open any of the .zip files that
> were attached in recent e-mails to this mailing list. These messages
> contain viruses!
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> --
> Minh Nguyen 
> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: [email protected]; Blog: http://notes.1ec5.org/
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:36:04 +0700
> From: " Tr?n V?nh T?n " 
> Subject: [Wikivi-l] Fwd: About the CheckUser position
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Blnguyen 
> Date: 15-04-2008 10:00
> Subject: Re: About the CheckUser position
> To: Vinhtantran 
>
> Hi
>
> Yes it would work
>
> If you click checkuser on a vandal account and you can explicitly see the
> IP
> addresses being used, so you can lock the IP directly, rather than just
> relying on an autoblock on the vandal's account
>
> If it is a dynamic IP address it will give a lot of similar numbers like
> 59.91.254.10, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.224, 59.91.254.124,
> and
> so forth
>
> Then you can go and directly block 59.91.254.0/24 and it will shut down
> the
> whole range, and click the "prevent account creation" and do not select
> "anon only".
>
> If you think some registered user is logging out and anonymously causing
> trouble, then CU the IP range and then use "get users" on the IP range.
>
> With #2, the autoblock only blocks their one IP so they can log out from
> 59.91.254.10 and when they reboot their internet, it will send them to
> another IP like 59.91.254.32 and that won't be autoblocked so they can
> carry
> on. Explicitly using CU to dig up their IP allows you to explicitly block
> the whole rane to stop this.
>
> The CU access request form is here
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Vinhtantran 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Blnguyen,
> >
> > vi.wiki started to need CheckUser's position now. Can you answer some
> > questions about checking user?
> >
> > 1. Vietnam is using dynamic IP address, and many members of vi.wiki are
> > from Vietnam, can CheckUser check if they're changing IP and log in?
> > 2. There are many vandalisms now, all of them start from 1 or 2 people.
> > Even when we block that user, we also blocked creating accounts and IP
> > they're using, but they still can. Can you give us some advices? Can
> > CheckUser solve that?
> >
> > I hope we can chat together, via any IM you'd like, maybe Yahoo!
> > Messenger, GTalk, or even IRC Channel. Thanks in advance,
> >
> > T?n.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tr?n V?nh T?n
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:38:25 +0700
> From: " Tr?n V?nh T?n " 
> Subject: [Wikivi-l] Fwd: About the CheckUser position
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
>        
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> From: Blnguyen
> Date: 15-04-2008 10:00
> Subject: Re: About the CheckUser position
> To: Vinhtantran 
>
> Hi
>
> Yes it would work
>
> If you click checkuser on a vandal account and you can explicitly see the
> IP
> addresses being used, so you can lock the IP directly, rather than just
> relying on an autoblock on the vandal's account
>
> If it is a dynamic IP address it will give a lot of similar numbers like
> 59.91.254.10, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.24, 59.91.254.224, 59.91.254.124,
> and
> so forth
>
> Then you can go and directly block 59.91.254.0/24 and it will shut down
> the
> whole range, and click the "prevent account creation" and do not select
> "anon only".
>
> If you think some registered user is logging out and anonymously causing
> trouble, then CU the IP range and then use "get users" on the IP range.
>
> With #2, the autoblock only blocks their one IP so they can log out from
> 59.91.254.10 and when they reboot their internet, it will send them to
> another IP like 59.91.254.32 and that won't be autoblocked so they can
> carry
> on. Explicitly using CU to dig up their IP allows you to explicitly block
> the whole rane to stop this.
>
> The CU access request form is here
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Vinhtantran 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Blnguyen,
> >
> > vi.wiki started to need CheckUser's position now. Can you answer some
> > questions about checking user?
> >
> > 1. Vietnam is using dynamic IP address, and many members of vi.wiki are
> > from Vietnam, can CheckUser check if they're changing IP and log in?
> > 2. There are many vandalisms now, all of them start from 1 or 2 people.
> > Even when we block that user, we also blocked creating accounts and IP
> > they're using, but they still can. Can you give us some advices? Can
> > CheckUser solve that?
> >
> > I hope we can chat together, via any IM you'd like, maybe Yahoo!
> > Messenger, GTalk, or even IRC Channel. Thanks in advance,
> >
> > T?n.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tr?n V?nh T?n
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:28:03 -0700
> From: Minh Nguyen 
> Subject: [Wikivi-l] Ki?m tra ch?nh t? ti?ng Vi?t trong Firefox
> To: Vietnamese Wikipedia <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Ch?o c?c b?n,
>
> T?i v?a vi?t m?t ph?n m? r?ng (/extension/) cho Firefox
> <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/>
?? ki?m tra ch?nh t? ti?ng Vi?t.
> N? cung c?p hai b? t? ?i?n ki?m tra ch?nh t?: m?t c?i b? d?u ki?u m?i
> (vd: "xo?"), v? c?i kia b? d?u ki?u c? ("x?a").
>
> N? ch?y trong c?c phi?n b?n g?n ??y v? s?p t?i c?a Firefox, c?ng nh?
> ch??ng tr?nh e-mail Thunderbird
> <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/>.
Sau khi c?i ??t ph?n m?
> r?ng n?y, h?y nh?n chu?t ph?i v?o h?p v?n b?n n?o, b?t l?n "Check
> Spelling", v? ch?n ho?c "Vietnamese (New)" ho?c "Vietnamese (Old)". L?u
> ? r?ng ph?n m? r?ng n?y cung c?p c?c g?i ? kh?ng t?t l?m trong Firefox 2
> (nh?t l? khi vi?t hoa), nh?ng b?n c? th? t?i xu?ng beta c?a Firefox 3
> <http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html>
?? s? d?ng b? ki?m
> tra ch?nh t? t?t h?n.
>
> B?n c? th? c?i ??t ph?n m? r?ng mi?n ph? t?i website ph?n m? r?ng ch?nh
> th?c c?a Mozilla <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7479>
> (c?n ??ng nh?p), hay t?i n? xu?ng t?i trang ch? c?a ph?n m? r?ng
> <
> http://code.google.com/p/hunspell-spellcheck-vi/downloads/detail?name=vi_dictionary_1.0.0.24.xpi
> >.
> T?i g?i th?ng b?o n?y cho danh s?ch Wikipedia ti?ng Vi?t ?? xin c?c b?n
> ??a ? ki?n: l? do b?n c?n ??ng nh?p t?i trang Mozilla l? ph?n m? r?ng
> n?y v?n c?n trong "ch? th?" c?a Mozilla. Sau khi c?i ??t n?, xin t?n m?t
> ch?t th? gi? ?? chia s? ? ki?n t?i ??y
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7479>.
Mozilla kh?ng
> ch?u tr?nh b?y ph?n m? r?ng n?y "c?ng khai" cho ??n khi c? ?? ng??i c?i
> ??t v? cho ? ki?n v? n?. N?u b?n g?p t? ??ng n?o m? ph?n m? r?ng cho l?
> sai, xin h?y nh?n tin t?i ??y
> <http://code.google.com/p/hunspell-spellcheck-vi/wiki/Errata>.
>
> ?? th? b? ki?m tra ch?nh t?, b?n c? th? th? s?a ??i m?t b?i vi?t t?i
> Wikipedia ti?ng Vi?t v? xem b?i ?? c? ??ng ch?nh t? hay kh?ng.
>
> C?m ?n cho m?i ng??i cho ? ki?n, v? mong l? ph?n m? r?ng n?y c? th? gi?p
> nh?ng ng??i s?a ??i Wikipedia th??ng xuy?n. Th?n m?n.
>
> --
> Minh Nguyen 
> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: [email protected]; Blog: http://notes.1ec5.org/
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