18 Jun 2012 12:26
Paragraphs and html integration.
Boris Le Ninivin <boris.leninivin <at> gmail.com>
2012-06-18 10:26:54 GMT
2012-06-18 10:26:54 GMT
Hello everyone.
It seems that I can post to the list now. Great. [1]
I'm new to this list, and I've subscribed to discuss a design matter.
Indeed, I'm currently writing a WebDev Toolkit in PHP for making the creations of simple websites and web applications quicker and easier (I'm fully aware that this kind of thing already exist, let's just say I'd doing it my way, 'cause nothing I've seen so far fulfills my needs, and also, I might learn one thing or two in the process).
For allowing people who will use my toolkit to write content without having to include html tags, I've choosen the Markdown language (thanks to the PHP port). To me, it's the best markup language I've ever used so far.
Now, to step forward to the problem I have :
In a website, parts of the pages (essentially headers and footers) are often the same. Hence I've added a functionality to my toolkit : inclusion. It is performed when the parser finds " <at> include filename".
The problem I have had is that these instructions are wrapped between <p> tags. Indeed I've tried to bypass the problem by many ideas, but since EVERYTHING is wrapped between <p> tags (including doctypes and all!), I get non-compliant html documents (my header defines the doctype and html head body tags too; and my footer closes the body and html tags; but these are wrapped into paragraphs...).
Since the markdown language is aimed to be "a format for writing for the web." and "not a replacement for HTML, or even close to it.", I think the md language should allow a strong usage of html tags, and even, to have .md files containing 99% of html tags.
In the end, on the df website, it is said that "Markdown is smart enough not to add extra (unwanted) <p> tags around HTML block-level tags.". So I don't know if it's an implementation problem (related to the PHP port, maybe?), or if it's a design problem, but as far as I know, Markdown is not smart enough to not add unwanted <p> tags.
Regards,
Boris Le Ninivin.
[1] I'm not really delighted to see that a GOOGLE email address is required to be able to post to this list. It might be a more or less effective way to reduce spam, but it's clearly not the correct one. Google uses the data from your emails to build profiles on you, and to [identify](http://donttrack.us/) and [bubble](http://dontbubble.us/) you. Therefore, I use a personal email address from a domain I own. And that one was rejected. I just wanted to point all that out while I'm at it. Oh and in case I'm wrong and that it was my domain which is blacklisted or anything else, do not pay attention to this complaint. :)
It seems that I can post to the list now. Great. [1]
I'm new to this list, and I've subscribed to discuss a design matter.
Indeed, I'm currently writing a WebDev Toolkit in PHP for making the creations of simple websites and web applications quicker and easier (I'm fully aware that this kind of thing already exist, let's just say I'd doing it my way, 'cause nothing I've seen so far fulfills my needs, and also, I might learn one thing or two in the process).
For allowing people who will use my toolkit to write content without having to include html tags, I've choosen the Markdown language (thanks to the PHP port). To me, it's the best markup language I've ever used so far.
Now, to step forward to the problem I have :
In a website, parts of the pages (essentially headers and footers) are often the same. Hence I've added a functionality to my toolkit : inclusion. It is performed when the parser finds " <at> include filename".
The problem I have had is that these instructions are wrapped between <p> tags. Indeed I've tried to bypass the problem by many ideas, but since EVERYTHING is wrapped between <p> tags (including doctypes and all!), I get non-compliant html documents (my header defines the doctype and html head body tags too; and my footer closes the body and html tags; but these are wrapped into paragraphs...).
Since the markdown language is aimed to be "a format for writing for the web." and "not a replacement for HTML, or even close to it.", I think the md language should allow a strong usage of html tags, and even, to have .md files containing 99% of html tags.
In the end, on the df website, it is said that "Markdown is smart enough not to add extra (unwanted) <p> tags around HTML block-level tags.". So I don't know if it's an implementation problem (related to the PHP port, maybe?), or if it's a design problem, but as far as I know, Markdown is not smart enough to not add unwanted <p> tags.
Regards,
Boris Le Ninivin.
[1] I'm not really delighted to see that a GOOGLE email address is required to be able to post to this list. It might be a more or less effective way to reduce spam, but it's clearly not the correct one. Google uses the data from your emails to build profiles on you, and to [identify](http://donttrack.us/) and [bubble](http://dontbubble.us/) you. Therefore, I use a personal email address from a domain I own. And that one was rejected. I just wanted to point all that out while I'm at it. Oh and in case I'm wrong and that it was my domain which is blacklisted or anything else, do not pay attention to this complaint. :)
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