Ensuring integrity & searchability of ML archives (was Re: [REQUEST] XML Graphics setup) (Modified by Clay Leeds)

NOTE1: This is a repost sent To:infrastructure <at> a.o and 
Cc:general <at> x.a.o. With the exception of NOTE1: it is otherwise 
unchanged from my post to fop-dev & batik-dev.

Clay

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NOTE: This was sent to fop-dev & batik-dev as I have a question about 
the mailing lists I'd like to clarify before we 'ask' infrustructure <at> .

On Oct 31, 2004, at 1:28 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Dear infrastructure people,
>
> the board has recently accepted the proposal for creation of the XML
> Graphics project (which is comprised of the XML projects Batik and 
> FOP).
> To aid in the process, would infrastructure please do the following:
>
> #=======================================
> [0] Subdomain and unix group
>
> The name of the new subdomain and unix group is "xmlgraphics".
>
> #=======================================
> [1] Mailing List
>
> (i) addresses
>
>   I.   general <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   II.  general-commits <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   III. pmc <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org (private mailing list)
>
>
> (ia) renames and aliases
>
>   I.   batik-dev <at> xml.apache.org to batik-dev <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   I.   batik-users <at> xml.apache.org to batik-users <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   II.  xml-batik-cvs <at> xml.apache.org to 
> batik-commits <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   I.   fop-dev <at> xml.apache.org to fop-dev <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   I.   fop-users <at> xml.apache.org to fop-users <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>   II.  xml-fop-cvs <at> xml.apache.org to fop-commits <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org
>
> Please create aliases so the old adresses continue to work!

When the Apache Forrest project changed to a new domain, they also 
changed from forrest-dev <at> x.a.o to dev <at> f.a.o & user <at> f.a.o. 
Unfortunately, with this change comes (IMHO) a significant problem for 
browsers of the archives: forrest-dev <at>  mail is a completely separate 
mailing list (with a separate interface). The problem is that 
forrest-dev was used for *all* dev *&* user mailing list traffic, so a 
search in the 'current' mailing lists' archives does not include 
content in forrest-dev (that's a separate search).

For example, with the change to fop-user <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org, I'd 
like to make certain (if possible or logical) that we don't end up with 
a similar problem.

I'm not certain what the 'solution' looks like (or even if it's a real 
problem!), but I thought we should chat. If it is a problem, we may 
need to set up <mailing-list> <at> xmlgraphics.apache.org as an alias to 
<mailing-list> <at> xml.apache.org. IOW, the mailing lists do *not* change 
and we add aliases for  <at> xmlgraphics.a.o.

Is this something we should worry about? IMO, the ability to search 
relevant archives using one search is more important than having a 
'real' address vs. an alias. We still would want to have all headers 
(e.g., Reply-To:) and trailers set to <mailing-list> <at> xmlgraphics.a.o

Thoughts?

Web Maestro Clay
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